Fox News Coming to Canada

[Ben Kenobi]

The thought of Ben masturbating rapidly while Bill blathers on is enough to make me piss my pants laughing, by the way.

Bill who?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Berzerker
I'll have to take that back, I'm not sure what has happened with the US soldiers seeking asylum in Canada. If they are still up there I wonder why Bill has quieted down about them and his threatened boycott. He might be waiting for Canada to make a decision, but I highly doubt O'Reilly will call for a boycott when Canada is letting Fox on the air. Does anyone know anything about these US soldiers in Canada?

I'll try. AFAIK they are still being prosessed, meaning they are in limbo - not allowed to be productive and not in immediate fear of being removed. The entire process including appeals can often take years. If there are appeals to the courts (and not just the Refugee appeal boards) it can add more years. If ultimately they are legally required to go home, they can always try the 'disappear' approach and stay indefinitly.

I do believe some have lost the first round of their claim. I can try to find more info but a name would be really helpful...

[Wezil]

I did find this though, which I shall throw out to encourage discussion....

KEYWORDS - REFUGEE PROTECTION DIVISION - PERSON IN NEED OF PROTECTION - GENERALIZED RISK – NEXUS - FEMALE - NEGATIVE - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
The claimant claimed to have a well-founded fear of persecution by terrorists by reason of her nationality as an American citizen. She also claimed to be a person in need of protection. She had been scheduled to fly on one of the airlines which flew into the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001 but her trip was cancelled. She was so frightened by this brush with death that she sold her home and came to Canada. The Refugee Protection Division found that the claimant was neither a Convention refugee nor a person in need of protection. The risk of terrorism was a generalized risk which existed equally for every American and, to varying degrees, for everyone else in the world. RPD TA2-12575, Morrish, April 16, 2003.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Oerdin
This claim about the media being liberal is bs. 90% of the mass media is culturally in the middle but we have a few backwards areas of the country where people never left the 19th century and to them everything is liberal.

Snob.

[Tingkai]

More comedy.

[Ned]

Fox News is certainly going to jar a lot of Canadians who are used to having their News sugarcoated with a lot of anti-American spin.

[Wezil]

Here's your answer Berzerker. They're just starting.

By KATHLEEN HARRIS, OTTAWA BUREAU

The Federal government is challenging an American soldier's bid for refugee status in Canada. A government official confirmed the feds will oppose arefugee application from Jeremy Hinzman because he "does not fit the criterion for status refugees."

Refugee cases are heard by an independent tribunal and the federal government intervenes in hearings only when there's a novel legal argument or high public profile.

Jeffry House, a Toronto lawyer representing three U.S. military deserters under the watchful eye of the U.S., said the Immigration and Refugee Board is expected to rule within weeks on whether his clients can base their claim on the legality of the Iraq war.

Hinzman's hearing begins Dec. 6.

"No soldier can be required to violate the law, and that includes international law," House said. "If it's justified to bomb a country, that's one thing, but if it's not justified, then it's no different than blowing the heads off babies."

Hinzman is one of four American soldiers claiming refugee status in Canada.

Ned, we get your other channels already. Not all our news has anti-US spin.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ned
Fox News is certainly going to jar a lot of Canadians who are used to having their News sugarcoated with a lot of anti-American spin.

[Ned]

Wezil, well, if you haven't seen Fox News yet, you may have a hard time understanding exactly what I meant. There is a lot of subtle anti-Americanism in virtually every liberal media news organization except for FOX and some of MSNBC.

[KrazyHorse]

My sides are bursting. "sugarcoated with anti-American spin".



Sweetheart, you wouldn't know what objective reporting was if it slapped you upside the head. I suppose CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC are sugarcoated with anti-American spin? I suppose the fact that people in Canada (including myself) watch these American channels and take them seriously is because they're blatantly feeding our need to watch Americans being ridiculed? I suppose the fact that FOXNews, on the other hand, is going to be viewed with varying degrees of amusement by most Canadians is because it SPEAKS THE TROOF (to quote a great poster from elsewhere) and this will not jive with our compleely propagandised mindsets?



Too bad that the average Canadian has access to a wider range of viewpoints on their news than does the average American. Too bad you don't get about half your news from sources outside your borders like I always have. Too bad your glib one-liners are so out of touch with reality that they could have been lifted directly from your beloved FOXNews...

[Lawrence of Arabia]

what KH said.

[Dinner]

How so? I've never considered the truth snobbish.

Edit: This is for Ned.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Too bad that the average Canadian has access to a wider range of viewpoints on their news than does the average American. Too bad you don't get about half your news from sources outside your borders like I always have. Too bad your glib one-liners are so out of touch with reality that they could have been lifted directly from your beloved FOXNews...

I was thinking a similar thing w/o so much laughter...

This is why I favour allowing FOX to be seen on cable here. I welcome even more diversity.

Ned, I am familiar with FOXNews through the use of an 'illegal' dish.

[Tingkai]

If we're going to have uncensored Fox then we should have the uncensored Al-jazeera.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Gay marriage is the middle?

Are you honestly claiming the NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, or any of the other major networks campaigned for gay marriage? They simply presented stories upon an important political issue. I wouldn't call that endorsing or promoting anything.