Fox News Coming to Canada

[Ned]

Originally posted by Oerdin
How so? I've never considered the truth snobbish.

Edit: This is for Ned.

You said this:

"90% of the mass media is culturally in the middle but we have a few backwards areas of the country where people never left the 19th century ."

[Wezil]

The community faces many pressures these days. The cities are constantly encroaching and there is no new land being created. It is difficult to pass down to all children a viable piece of property and as you know they have large families. The Mennonites are well known to always be on the look out for available property (keep a close eye on your sale date ).

They also have the obvious gene pool problem. Their numbers are too small in any one area and as I understand it there is a rotation of women with other like communities on occasion (Ben would probably be a better source on this score however). There are old order communities out west as you are no doubt aware.

I find them a good people despite my obvious religious differences (topic only came up once when I discussed the different restrictions they seem to live by with a Mennonite - ie some will drive a car but others won't). They live a life I wouldn't want but on the whole it works for them. Community and family are everything and when contrasted with the neighbouring cities it sure shows.

Maybe my experiences make it easier for me to 'tolerate' Ben than many of the posters here. I wasn't aware of his particular religious bent before...

[Ned]

Originally posted by Wezil


I was thinking a similar thing w/o so much laughter...

This is why I favour allowing FOX to be seen on cable here. I welcome even more diversity.

Ned, I am familiar with FOXNews through the use of an 'illegal' dish.

Sorry to hear that freedom of speech is considered illegal in Canada. One most critical aspects of freedom of speech is a right to read what you want to read. This right to read includes the right, in my opinion, to watch which ever news channel you can receive without violating copyright laws.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Tingkai
It's not a question of whether there are conservatives, it's whether Canadians will buy into the vile and lies spewed by Fox.

Canadian conservatives tend to be more civilised than what the Republicans have become.

Bravo, Tingkai. You sound just like a bigot.

[Ned]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn


True, but its more of the same difference between Northern and Southern Republicans in the US. The point is southerners are monkeys and will believe anything. Friendly as hell though... as long as your not black or queer

I just can't get over bigotry and snobbery of you Canadiens.

[Wezil]

It wasn't a copyright issue but yeah, I agree free speech is desirable. Hence my agreement with the CRTC in their decision.

Fix your FCC before you pass judgement on our quality of free speech.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Ned
I just can't get over bigotry and snobbery of you Canadiens.

It's a sport in some quarters.

btw, wasn't there an american or two on these boards that wanted to come live among us?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Ned


I just can't get over bigotry and snobbery of you Canadiens.

Uhhmm, he's a Yank who lives in Ottawa and flies the Red Leaf.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Ned


Bravo, Tingkai. You sound just like a bigot.

You need to get a dictionary.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Ned
I just can't get over bigotry and snobbery of you Canadiens.

Oh it just keeps getting better and better.

Here's the thing Ned. Compared to American politics, Canadian politicians treat each other respect. In the last election, the battle was largely over policies (not completely, but largely) not mud-slinging.

The worst thing the Conservatives ever did was issue one stupid press release. The worst for the NDP was one comment from Layton. The Liberals played down in the dirt, but nothing compared to what American politicians do.

What you take as normal would be considered beyond the pale in Canada.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Wezil
The community faces many pressures these days. The cities are constantly encroaching and there is no new land being created. It is difficult to pass down to all children a viable piece of property and as you know they have large families. The Mennonites are well known to always be on the look out for available property (keep a close eye on your sale date ).

They also have the obvious gene pool problem. Their numbers are too small in any one area and as I understand it there is a rotation of women with other like communities on occasion (Ben would probably be a better source on this score however). There are old order communities out west as you are no doubt aware.

I find them a good people despite my obvious religious differences (topic only came up once when I discussed the different restrictions they seem to live by with a Mennonite - ie some will drive a car but others won't). They live a life I wouldn't want but on the whole it works for them. Community and family are everything and when contrasted with the neighbouring cities it sure shows.

Maybe my experiences make it easier for me to 'tolerate' Ben than many of the posters here. I wasn't aware of his particular religious bent before...

He went very nonobserving when he came out West. There wasn't a Mennonite community around where he settled, other than another fellow who came from the same area of Ontario. That person is probably why he settled there.

They all pitched in along with everyone else in the small municipal district to make sure that everyone made it, so the commitment to community was certainly there, but it was there among everyone in that area at that time as well, whether Swedish Lutheran or British Protestant (a couple of families I can recall).

He stayed religious, but kept it to himself. He also took up smoking and whiskey, which would have been frowned upon. I still remember the Christmas I got socks, chocolates, cigaretttes, and a Texas mickey of rum. He got a teddy bear, a couple colouring books, and a lot of Match Box toys. I am his namesake and somehow the gifts got switched by Santa. Boy was I some upset when to forced to do a gift exchange. Somehow me as a three year old had a fondness for cigarettes and whiskey. Wild, wild women came later.

The net result was that the environment my mother came from and from where I come from is fairly tolerant as well. I too can understand Ben, if I don't always agree with him.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Wezil
It wasn't a copyright issue but yeah, I agree free speech is desirable. Hence my agreement with the CRTC in their decision.

Fix your FCC before you pass judgement on our quality of free speech.

Agreed.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Tingkai




Oh it just keeps getting better and better.

Here's the thing Ned. Compared to American politics, Canadian politicians treat each other respect. In the last election, the battle was largely over policies (not completely, but largely) not mud-slinging.

The worst thing the Conservatives ever did was issue one stupid press release. The worst for the NDP was one comment from Layton. The Liberals played down in the dirt, but nothing compared to what American politicians do.

What you take as normal would be considered beyond the pale in Canada.

Tingkai, the most distinguishing factor in the US election was the vile hatred spewed against Bush by virtually everyone on the left. Bush, in contrast, praised Kerry on a personal level and kept his disagreements with Kerry on a high plane by contrast.

And yet, what do we see here? Continuing attacks on Republicans and Fox News for spewing out vile lies when the truth is that it was the Democrats who were lying constantly (see Michael Moore for example) and who were vile beyond all measure of civility.

[notyoueither]

I think the enemies of Kerry dished out a bit of dirt themselves.

[Ned]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I think the enemies of Kerry dished out a bit of dirt themselves.

The Swift Boat folks, yes. But not the Republican Party and not Bush.

Contrast that with the vile Terry McCauliff.