Falluja operation underway

[Chemical Ollie]

There is one party in the US that supports friends and opposes foes. Then there is the other party who abandons friends and asslicks foes.

You mean one party abandons France, the country that invented the ideas on which America was founded, while it supports Pakistan, the WMD-owning country that invented the Talibans?

On the Vietnam topic: you lost, the commies won - get over it! They are now making cheap clothing for you anyway...

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Ned
Problem child, that leftist propaganda piece is very typical of the left. It talks of

1) indiscriminate attacks where civilians are killed in large numbers;
2) statements that the local government is puppet;
3) statements that the US is rascist; and
4) statements that the US tortures prisoners.

Need I go on? It's almost like the left has a propaganda recipe for writing these propaganda pieces. It is the same story every time.

You don't have to be a leftist to know that all of the above four statements are true

[Ned]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie

There is one party in the US that supports friends and opposes foes. Then there is the other party who abandons friends and asslicks foes.

You mean one party abandons France, the country that invented the ideas on which America was founded, while it supports Pakistan, the WMD-owning country that invented the Talibans?

On the Vietnam topic: you lost, the commies won - get over it! They are now making cheap clothing for you anyway...

What ideas are these? A revolution where people with wealth and property are executed en masse? Sounds more like communism than conservatism.

[Chemical Ollie]

Seems you have to read some history

[DinoDoc]

The American revolution happened before the French one and the ideals were found in the works of John Locke. We also never went around beheading people.

[Chemical Ollie]

Still, they congratulated by giving you the statue of liberty.

In any case, France has been Americas ally for about 230 years. What party was the first to forget that?

[DinoDoc]

So how exactly did they "invent" the ideas on which America was founded?

PS They congratulatd us by fighting an undeclared naval war against us and enslaving our citizens along with the UK.

[Chemical Ollie]

By a quick Google, it seems I'm wrong on some minor details here. But the conclusion is the same: France has always been a very close ally to US. France sent troups to help in the liberation and was the first country to recognize American souverignity from England. (Sweden was 2nd)

[Ted Striker]

"God forget us, if we forget/the sacred sword of Lafayette"

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


PS They congratulatd us by fighting an undeclared naval war against us and enslaving our citizens along with the UK.

"They" were an entirely different French government which saved out punk azzes and bankrupted themselves in the process.

And the British were 10 times worse at the time when it came to impressment.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie

There is one party in the US that supports friends and opposes foes. Then there is the other party who abandons friends and asslicks foes.

You mean one party abandons France, the country that invented the ideas on which America was founded, while it supports Pakistan, the WMD-owning country that invented the Talibans?

How the hell did France invent the ideas on which America was founded? Their revolution didn't occur until after the American one.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
"They" were an entirely different French government which saved out punk azzes and bankrupted themselves in the process.

And the British were 10 times worse at the time when it came to impressment.

To be fair, a lot of our soldiers were British sailors who had mutineed.

[Chemical Ollie]

Despite all history confusion here, France was an American ally from the very beginning, no fact you presented opposes that. And Pakistan is a WMD-owning military dictatorship, which created the Talibans. And it just became your ally. Where is Ned coming?

[Ted Striker]

That is true.

Many left because the working conditions in the American Navy were alot better.

On the other hand, the British were facing a manpower dilemma with staffing their ships and felt they had to steal people to staff their ships. This had long been a tradition in navies at the time.

[Agathon]

Locke is largely responsible for the ideas that the United States was founded on, and he was an Englishman.

The United States is also supposed to embody Enlightenment values as well (although God knows what Voltaire would say about Bush). If you want the Enlightenment go look at France and Scotland.

How the hell did France invent the ideas on which America was founded? Their revolution didn't occur until after the American one.

I think he's talking about the Enlightenment Kuci.

Anyway, the world has moved on since then. The Enlightenment was hopelessly naive. Nietzsche, Marx and Freud put paid to that.