Falluja operation underway

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
France sent troups to help in the liberation and was the first country to recognize American souverignity from England. (Sweden was 2nd)

There went our reputation as a nice country.

[Chemical Ollie]

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
Despite all history confusion here, France was an American ally from the very beginning, no fact you presented opposes that.

Allies don't fight wars against each other and enslave thier citizens. You'd make more sense claiming the UK was an American ally from the begining.

[Ted Striker]

Yeah, but we have grown closer to the British since then.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Yeah, but we have grown closer to the British since then.

British LIBERALS !!111!!!

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Allies don't fight wars against each other and enslave thier citizens. You'd make more sense claiming the UK was an American ally from the begining.

Saddam was an American ally from the beginning

*Trolling mode tonight*

[Ted Striker]

Nice edit DinoDoc

[Pax]

Originally posted by Ned


It was all over the media some time ago, which is why I am asking you why you are so uniformed about events in Iraq and the war on terror.

Even if what you say is true, Ned it would seem that the "resistance" you mention had no allegiance to Bin Laden rpior to the invasion of Iraq. That means that we made them our enemy rather than them having supported Bin Laden on his faithful day of aggression towards the U.S. but rather they turned to Bin Laden after what they see as aggression towards them. Who else could they have turned too? We made them our enemy!

[Pax]

Originally posted by Ned


PAX, agreed. Hindsight is a very good way of managing one's affairs. I would never have sent in ground troops in the manner Johnson did. If we were going to fight a war, we fight it to win. That required a declaration of war on NV.

There is no hindsight on my part. I would have never sent troops to Vietnam. I would have never sent troops to Iraq in the second gulf war. I think my position on war would be very clear to you by now. It is up to the people to determne through action or inaction how they want to live. For the U.S. to make that decision is in no way, shape, or form true freedom. It seems like if you are as patriotic as me you would agree.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Pax
There is no hindsight on my part. I would have never sent troops to Vietnam. I would have never sent troops to Iraq in the second gulf war. I think my position on war would be very clear to you by now. It is up to the people to determne through action or inaction how they want to live. For the U.S. to make that decision is in no way, shape, or form true freedom. It seems like if you are as patriotic as me you would agree.

What would you have done, PAX, after the armed attack on our naval forces in the Tonkin Gulf?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Pax

Even if what you say is true, Ned it would seem that the "resistance" you mention had no allegiance to Bin Laden rpior to the invasion of Iraq. That means that we made them our enemy rather than them having supported Bin Laden on his faithful day of aggression towards the U.S. but rather they turned to Bin Laden after what they see as aggression towards them. Who else could they have turned too? We made them our enemy!

The Ba'athists in Falluja were hardly our friends prior to the invasion. You cannot distinguish between Saddam and his party. They are not our enemy because of the invasion. We declared war on them.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
France sent troups to help in the liberation and was the first country to recognize American souverignity from England. (Sweden was 2nd)

I heard that Croatian city-state Dubrovnik (Ragusa) was the first to recognize USA.

[Dinner]

I that Ragusa was the medieval name for Montenagro.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Ned


What would you have done, PAX, after the armed attack on our naval forces in the Tonkin Gulf?

At most I would have reteliated with a equal force. Or even twice the force.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Ned


The Ba'athists in Falluja were hardly our friends prior to the invasion. You cannot distinguish between Saddam and his party. They are not our enemy because of the invasion. We declared war on them.

Ned, everyone resisting the U.S. is not Ba'athist. I don't thinkyou can distinguish between Saddam, his party, and the rest of the Iraqi's when you declare war. Even our smart weapons can't specifically target Ba'athists. What percentage of dead Iraqi's from the war/occupation do you think are Ba'athists? More or less than 50 %.