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  • #76
    Originally posted by CyberShy
    Of course not. The economy was doomed to go down in the year 2000. Despite the rumors of the 'new economy'
    The economy would've fallen anyway, and it did fall worldwide.
    That's not the same thing as saying "How can any sane person blame any fluctuation in the economy to any president?" While the overall economic cycle may not be affected by the Prez, his decisions have an effect on the length, depth, timing etc. of such cycles, as well as the impact of those cycles on people.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #77
      So how much is Bush kicking himself that this report didn't appear on the 1st?
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #78
        Originally posted by DanS
        You guys are funny. Wailing. Gnashing teeth. Beating of breasts. All for 450,000 new jobs!
        A large percentage of which were for rebuilding and cleaning up Florida. This had little to do with Bush. Frankly, our economy would probably be better off if our economy wasn't trashed by the hurricanes.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #79
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          So how much is Bush kicking himself that this report didn't appear on the 1st?
          Probably not very much, since it might have been viewed with extreme suspcion.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #80
            This had little to do with Bush.
            It kills y'all that Bush can take some credit for more people getting jobs. I never heard any Republicans BAM about more jobs during Clinton's tenure.

            These are non-partisan jobs!
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #81
              I never heard any Republicans BAM about more jobs during Clinton's tenure.


              Here you go Dan:

              "All of Clinton's job gains were because of the ecomomic bubble and, therefore, were not 'real' jobs."

              Glad I could oblige!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by DanS
                I never heard any Republicans BAM about more jobs during Clinton's tenure.
                I'll follow JohnT's lead.

                The jobs under Clinton came only after the Republicans took control of Congress. The recession became inevitable when Clinton won the budget battle.

                So there!
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • #83
                  Doesn't count. You guys are saying this after Clinton's tenure.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by DanS


                    It kills y'all that Bush can take some credit for more people getting jobs. I never heard any Republicans BAM about more jobs during Clinton's tenure.

                    These are non-partisan jobs!
                    Because these jobs suck. The majority are temporary, low paying and without health insurance or other benefits. Small businesses are getting such a kick in the ass from this economy they're afraid to hire anyone on more than an extremely temporary basis.

                    These aren't the kind of jobs Clinton helped to bring in. These jobs suck.

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                    • #85
                      These aren't the kind of jobs Clinton helped to bring in.


                      Yes, Clinton "brought in" (cute phrase that!) untenable, overpaid jobs like web-designing, IPO-merchandising, and the like... all jobs that disappeared as soon as the bubble burst.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by JohnT
                        These aren't the kind of jobs Clinton helped to bring in.


                        Yes, Clinton "brought in" (cute phrase that!) untenable, overpaid jobs like web-designing, IPO-merchandising, and the like... all jobs that disappeared as soon as the bubble burst.
                        Thats why I said he helped bring in.

                        And so what? I'd much rather a high paying "bubble" job for a few years than six months on a construction site in Florida for peanuts and no benefits.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn

                          And so what? I'd much rather a high paying "bubble" job for a few years than six months on a construction site in Florida for peanuts and no benefits.
                          Sure. That way you can have a fat mortgage and car payment to bankrupt.

                          Pure democratic thinking. Don't ever look at the long term consequences of your actions...
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • #88
                            Construction isn't such a bad job.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by JohnT
                              These aren't the kind of jobs Clinton helped to bring in.


                              Yes, Clinton "brought in" (cute phrase that!) untenable, overpaid jobs like web-designing, IPO-merchandising, and the like... all jobs that disappeared as soon as the bubble burst.
                              Not really

                              The information technology growth that spurred the productivity revolution resulted in a technology jobs that stayed put

                              Someone has to take care care of all that infrastructure
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by DanS
                                Construction isn't such a bad job.
                                It's seasonal and doesn't pay very well, lots of mandatory overtime, its dangerous, and given the large number of illegals in the industry, workers often get screwed.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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