The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread! III

[Ben Kenobi]

Bush is ahead by 3 in Nevada.

He's also up in Iowa, NM and he's only down by 15K in Wisconsin.

So, given that the absentee ballots are likely to weigh in Bush's favour given that many of them are servicemen abroad, I can't see any of these states going to Kerry.

Plus you have Ohio.

When will Kerry concede?

Oops.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5650832/

[Nubclear]

However, all votes should be counted. It really is that simple - when I went to vote, I was mysteriously not found on registration rolls. They gave me one of those Provisional Ballots. Even though my vote has little effect, I'd be quite angry is they just threw it away simply because it wont change things.

One would think supporting counting all votes would be prerequistite to supporting democracy

[Dinner]

MSNBC has officially called Ohio red.

[joncha]

NBC called Ohio for Bush hours ago.

[Ted Striker]

Yeah, it's important that all the votes are counted.

[Robert]

Originally posted by Tingkai
I think the point UR is making is that in the US system, who wins the popular vote doesn't matter.

In theory, if the uncounted votes give Kerry ohio then he's the president regardless of the popular vote.

UR would have a point if Kerry would make a change to win the Electoral vote. But he doesn't since he's behind by 150.000 by now.
Gore was only behind 500 in the electoral vote in Florida. That's what I call too close too call.

[Sprayber]

All the votes should be counted

[Ben Kenobi]

One would think supporting counting all votes would be prerequistite to supporting democracy

A concession does not preclude counting these ballots for an accurate count.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Everyone:

My home state appears to have rejected Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., by a few thousand votes. Assuming Kerry loses as well, that's almost as big a black eye as failing to regain the White House for the Democrats.

I did my civic duty and voted a split ticket. It appears I voted with the majority in only one of three national races. But, hey, I did better with state- and local-level issues. Heh. Like that's going to be of any comfort to *former* Sen. Daschle.

Hmm. The terrorists really did win on Sept. 11, 2001. We just don't know it yet. They've divided the West against itself. The right-wingers in America and the lefties in Europe are pouring more fuel on the fire. I do believe I will live to see the destruction of the United States of America — as well as other Western nations — in my lifetime. Perhaps not the *physical* annhilation thereof, but of the ideas upon which they were founded.

Ah, hell. It's late. Just got back from 10.25 hours at the office. Waxing a bit philosophical at the time of the morning probably isn't the brightest thing I should be doing. Such is life.

Gatekeeper

Daschle seems to have been ousted from the outside.

I want to know what the big deal was with him, the whole national Republican party went after him for some reason.

[Tingkai]

Toronto Star report: "A large voter turnout delayed results for several hours last night, with voters in a precinct in Knox County still casting ballots at 3 a.m., some after an eight-hour wait. "

to those voters for waiting in line that long.

[Robert]

Of course it's important that all votes are counted.
But that's no difference to 8 and 12 and 16 years ago.
But why could California be given to Kerry without counting any vote? Because every sane person knows it is for Kerry.

Every vote needs to be counted for the OFFICIAL result.
Not for the day-after-result, if it's clear enough.
Last time it was not clear enough. Now it is clear enough.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Gore/Bush:
- Gore won popular vote
- Gore and Bush were 500-something votes seperated in Florida.
GORE HAD A POINT!

Kerry/Bush:
- Bush wins popular vote
- Bush leads by 144.000 in Ohio
KERRY HAS NO POINT AT ALL!

You forgot that Gore's count included absentee and provisional ballots.

[Jaguar]

Ted, we simply despise him.

[joncha]

The networks that have called Ohio for Bush are not calling Nevada, and the ones that held out on Ohio called Nevada for Bush.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by CyberShy


UR would have a point if Kerry would make a change to win the Electoral vote. But he doesn't since he's behind by 150.000 by now.
Gore was only behind 500 in the electoral vote in Florida. That's what I call too close too call.

I'm not sure at what point that the 500 number came up. Maybe it was the next day. It's still early in the night to fine tune all the stragglers coming in.

I seem to recall that Tuesday night 2000 that there was a 100K or so gap between the two candidates.