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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
    57 million for Bush Jr.
    51 million for Gore
    47 million for Clinton
    44 million for Clinton
    48 million for Bush Sr.
    54 million for Reagan
    43 million for Reagan
    To compare apples to apples you have to compare percentages and not total numbers of votes as the population changes over time.

    Clinton set the record for most votes during both of his races but he never got more a majority. Percentages are what counts.
    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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    • I am always quite surprised by the way the country splits. The red states stay red, the blue states stay blue with only 7-8 states switching sides.

      Would i be correct in assuming that a lot of the blue states (New England, California, New York) pay more money into the federal kitty than they get out of it? And that a significant number of the red states take more out than they put in?

      Maybe they should start thinking about secession...

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      • Yes, that's correct.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • Originally posted by DanS
          For the pollster watchers out there, this election was called on the dot by Andrew Kohut of the Pew Center for the People and the Press.

          http://people-press.org/reports/disp...3?ReportID=232
          I wonder if that was the guy who was on fox this morning and lambasted the exit-pollers and their incompetence.
          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
          If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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          • Yes, they do, lightblue. On the other hand, the red states provide a much higher proportion of soldiers than do the blue states, for instance.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • Originally posted by SpencerH


              Apparently the turnout was virtually the same as in 2000.
              Not exactly. The youth vote was the highest in a long time but every sector had a higher turn out so the percentage of the vote which was youth was virtually unchanged. In absolute terms it was a blow out year for the youth vote but their participation rate was still the lowest of any group.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • I wonder if that was the guy who was on fox this morning and lambasted the exit-pollers and their incompetence.
                I can't see Andrew Kohut blasting anybody. I've never so much as heard him raise his voice in emphasis.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • The number of applications to the Socialist Party has jumped in the last 24 hours. As I said before, this election was a win-win situation for us. Either we get rid of Bush or Bush makes a lot more socialists.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • Originally posted by Arrian

                    GF - You actually BELIEVE this drivel?

                    This is a perfect illustration of why Bush won, by the way, folks. The Republicans have convinced a huge segment of the country that the Democrats (or, to be more nuanced, any Yankee Democrat) are going to turn us socialist and ban Christianity. They believe it, and they identify with Bush, and so they vote for him. His general idiocy and manifest incompetance is meaningless to them (or even endearing).
                    Too true.

                    Not that it would be a bad thing.

                    Sadly, it will take a few more generations before secularism and science overtake those still burdened by faith in super-natural beings.

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                    • Originally posted by DanS
                      Yes, they do, lightblue. On the other hand, the red states provide a much higher proportion of soldiers than do the blue states, for instance.
                      Yeah, they could seceed but the Republicans would just pick up their guns and annex them into submission like the last time they seceeded.

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                      • Originally posted by Solver
                        What happens, theoretically, if Kerry wins the 270 votes in Electoral College, even though he has conceded? If he would still be declared the winner, then what's the point of conceding?

                        Actually... is that conceding just a simple action, or official and expected by the law?
                        It's a costumary sign of good sportsmanship not a legally required act.
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • Yeah, they could seceed but the Republicans would just pick up their guns and annex them into submission like the last time they seceeded.



                          Maybe Europe could intervein then
                          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                          • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            The number of applications to the Socialist Party has jumped in the last 24 hours. As I said before, this election was a win-win situation for us. Either we get rid of Bush or Bush makes a lot more socialists.
                            Bush didn't make more socialists, that's the Democrats jumping from their sinking ship.

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                            • I'm an atheist and I voted for Bush so I don't want to hear any of your secular bull****. And lets take note of how all the liberals on here are still swearing up and down that Bush's an idiot, and he's incompetent, and that the rest of the country must be idiots too. And yet here they are still trying to figure out why anyone would vote for Bush. Who is the ignoramous I ask?

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                              • anyone would vote for Bush. Who is the ignorant I ask?


                                Why not, I've got the same problem as to why people watch programs like Big Brother and all.
                                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                                Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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