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I think Dean was vindicated by this whole process. Kerry should've been going after Dear Leader on Iraq the entire time, not just a month and a half before the election. Comeback Kerry, I **** on you.
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I liked him, but I have to disagree. I think he was 'before his time'.Originally posted by OzzyKP
Agreed. I think Dean might have won.
The Dems do definitely need someone with much more charisma than Kerry.Comment
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It was that noted conservative republican Chris Matthews commenting on why the dems lost.Originally posted by Oerdin
Hmm, you're the third person to mention flying over so I can only guess Rush Limbaugh said something about liberals and flying this morning.
We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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True, but unless there are like 10 faithless electors then this seals it. It means no legal challenges.Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
No, nothing does that until the electorial colledge meets.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Yea,Originally posted by dejon
I liked him, but I have to disagree. I think he was 'before his time'.
The Dems do definitely need someone with much more charisma than Kerry.
They sure as hell do, too damn bad Zel Miller is on the good side.
Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!
(Quick! Someone! Anyone! Sava! Come help! )-mrmitchellComment
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Apparently the turnout was virtually the same as in 2000.Originally posted by OzzyKP
Well that's what everyone was saying during the coverage today. I've yet to see the final figures though, but hopefully youth turned out in large numbers.
However if they didn't, then it would be even better for me, because I could use that as a hook to get funding for my group and propose lowering the voting age as the solution to get out the vote oriented foundations. That'd actually be much better.
We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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He's still a Democrat, and one a lot of us Republicans would vote for.Originally posted by Defiant
Yea,
They sure as hell do, too damn bad Zel Miller is on the good side.
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George Will:Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Yeah, the only problem is one is obviously a moron and the other isn't. Smart people generally don't horribly botch wars and ruin the economy and reputation of the worlds most powerful nation.
Re: ReputationThe unemployment rate (5.4 percent) is what it was when President Clinton coasted to re-election in 1996. And the economy's growth rate over the last four quarters (4.9 percent) is higher than the rate over the year before the 1996 election (4.0 percent). Kerry's excoriation of Bush over budget deficits is blunted by the fact that while the government was running deficits in 47 of the last 55 years, the GDP has almost sextupled and 79 million jobs have been created.
A good number of Americans are unimpressed with the world's acrimonious position on America. Germany and Japan know firsthand we are not imperialists."What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
--- Tom Paxton song ('63)Comment
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Correction, he is a Dixiecrat, or in English, actually a Republican.Originally posted by GhengisFarb
He's still a Democrat, and one a lot of us Republicans would vote for.
Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!
(Quick! Someone! Anyone! Sava! Come help! )-mrmitchellComment
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GF - You actually BELIEVE this drivel?I'd rather vote for a moron with integrity than a two faced hypocrite out to liberalize America and force us all onto government welfare programs while his cabinet slowly purges Christianity from our history.
This is a perfect illustration of why Bush won, by the way, folks. The Republicans have convinced a huge segment of the country that the Democrats (or, to be more nuanced, any Yankee Democrat) are going to turn us socialist and ban Christianity. They believe it, and they identify with Bush, and so they vote for him. His general idiocy and manifest incompetance is meaningless to them (or even endearing).
****. ****.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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The did come out in record numbers, however, percentage wise nothing changed with the previous election, namely 17%.Originally posted by OzzyKP
Well that's what everyone was saying during the coverage today. I've yet to see the final figures though, but hopefully youth turned out in large numbers.
However if they didn't, then it would be even better for me, because I could use that as a hook to get funding for my group and propose lowering the voting age as the solution to get out the vote oriented foundations. That'd actually be much better.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - EpicurusComment
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It was more like 130K votes and while the number of ballots still to be read is quite high it would require that Kerry take >90 % of them. Since those ballots wont be read for 10 days (by law) the country would be put on hold for what is a very slim chance.Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
It still doesn't make any sense. If you check out Ohio's voting stats, Bush was only ahead by 115k votes. Kerry had a slim chance but a chance nonetheless, why did he give up?
Maybe it actually isn't over, and Kerry's concession is just until further results are dug up???We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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I don't think Kerry is all behind that, but his party's active members are and they would have filled his cabinet. There was absolutely no way I wanted that cabinet in power. I voted more for the cabinet than for the President because they are going to have more influence on what happens than the President will.Originally posted by Arrian
GF - You actually BELIEVE this drivel?
This is a perfect illustration of why Bush won, by the way, folks. The Republicans have convinced a huge segment of the country that the Democrats (or, to be more nuanced, any Yankee Democrat) are going to turn us socialist and ban Christianity. They believe it, and they identify with Bush, and so they vote for him. His general idiocy and manifest incompetance is meaningless to them (or even endearing).
****. ****.
-Arrian
However, Kerry IS a complete fake. He firmly believed and fought for the opposite side of issues than I side with.
I don't for one second buy his complete 180 degree turn around in the last few months. You don't change your core beliefs like that and I was extremely insulted that he tried to feed us that line.Comment
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For the pollster watchers out there, this election was called on the dot by Andrew Kohut of the Pew Center for the People and the Press.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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