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Originally posted by Hueij
I suspected it at first but now I'm totally sure that they mess with your drinking water...
I suspected it at first but now I'm totally sure that they mess with your drinking water...
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The body fluid! The body fluids!
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germanos: I guess I have to agree. The reaction of the media and politics would be the same. But the demographics of the people who go and protest would probably be just about the inverse of what happened now. But I suppose that's only normal.
Spiffor: Well, I think most of the Dutch politicians, since Fortuyn, have gone beyond considering them victims here in Holland. On the one hand they have taken up a bit of a put-up-or-shut-up attitude. Integrate, and gimme your foreign passport too! On the other hand they take every opportunity to let them know they're different. (or something)
I actually read an interesting article in a newspaper a couple of weeks ago about the difference in attitudes and policies on immigrants and integration etc. between France and Holland... Unfortunately, I forgot most of it, so that's about the most interesting I can say about it.
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I don't know if mentioning this is allowed on Apolyton, but the movie Submission that Van Gogh made with Hirsi Ali is available via BitTorrent.Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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ExcellentOriginally posted by Mercator
germanos: I guess I have to agree. The reaction of the media and politics would be the same. But the demographics of the people who go and protest would probably be just about the inverse of what happened now. But I suppose that's only normal.
I completely agree with you on the demographic difference.
I also agree with Spiffor that the murder of a hate preaching imam would spark some concern over racist tendencies."post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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Is it's true there's naked women in it?Originally posted by Hueij
I don't know if mentioning this is allowed on Apolyton, but the movie Submission that Van Gogh made with Hirsi Ali is available via BitTorrent.
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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Are you that desperate? Find yourself some porn on Usenet...Originally posted by Last Conformist
Is it's true there's naked women in it?
Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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Know of any Dutch movie without....?Originally posted by Last Conformist
Is it's true there's naked women in it?
Either some scat is portrayed, or the movie itself is a bunch of ****.
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No, I'm just suggesting I care more for second-rate porn than for a human being being brutally murdered on an open street.Originally posted by Hueij
Are you that desperate? Find yourself some porn on Usenet...Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - EpicurusComment
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De DomineeOriginally posted by alva
Know of any Dutch movie without....?
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It seems to have begun
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Yeah, this was expected to happen.. kind of weak to target students at school though.. Well, this is a promise for a new cycle, alienated youth will answer, and then someone answers back etc etc etc.In da butt.
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It has not begun, it's an escalation.
Eversince van Gogh was killed, arson attempts have been made at mosques, islamic schools and other meeting places of muslims. Rascist/xenophobic texts have been sprayed on such buildings as well.
Thankfully I have heard of no reports of molestations yet.
In general I must say though things have been very calm.
There have been two small demonstrations in Amsterdam and Den Haag (seat of Parliament) by muslim organisations.
On a side note: van Gogh was sentenced by the High Court for anti-semitism in 1991."post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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On CNN World about an hour ago, there was a report of a police raid or something on the Hague, a large explosion and several police hurt.
What is going on?http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Very little information is given. What is clear though that the police attempted to arrest somebody (or more) during the night, but failed. Several explosions were heard and automatic weapons fire. Some say the door was booby-trapped. Apparently two officers are severely wounded by a handgranade that exploded.
Police retreated and called in the help of special (militairy) units.
According to a neighbour the guy inside the house yelled 'Allahu Akhbar' and 'Ik snij je strot eraf' (I'm gonna slit yer throat).
Area is sealed off, nothing is happening.
In other related news: tonight an islamic primary school was burned down. (arson most likely, as 'white power' symbols were found on the walls, along with Theo R.I.P.)
The day before that two churches had an attempted arson.
I live in a mixed neighbourhood with plenty of Turks, Morrocans, Surinamers and the lot, and I find the atmosphere totally relaxed. (before ya'll think hell has broken loose here )
Last edited by germanos; November 10, 2004, 09:48."post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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