The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread!

[Nubclear]

I would answer that, but since I'm a Kerry supporter I'll wait until after the "election"

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by monkspider
More Republican fraud

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041101/ap_on_el_pr/misleading_voter_calls

Here is a voicemail that the Republicans are leaving for Michigan voters.

I think Kerry actually does support Gay Marriage, which is commendable. He's just pretending that he doesn't because iit's unpopular. So I don't know what to think about this.

[MrFun]

Since some people are getting excited over the meaningless, ridiculous, imaginary, demographic group such as cell phone owners when talking about voting patterns, I thought of several other ridiculous demographic groups:

What contrast in the voting pattern would there be between voters who own a 37" HDTV versus those who own a 37" non-HDTV?

What contrast would there be between those who own one parakeet, versus those who own two parakeets?

What contrast would there be between those who use Trojan condoms, and those who use cheap condoms?

What contrast would there be between those who dye their hair, and those who do not dye their hair?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by MrFun
What contrast would there be between those who dye their hair, and those who do dye their hair?

None

[MrFun]

I DanSed you.

[Jaguar]

MrFun rants

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by MrFun
I DanSed you.

He quoted you, so you aren't gonna get away with it.

[MrFun]

Well at least I caught the mistake 12 nanoseconds after he posted about the mistake, then corrected it.

[mrmitchell]

I think Kerry actually does support Gay Marriage, which is commendable. He's just pretending that he doesn't because iit's unpopular. So I don't know what to think about this.

Kerry's official position is that gay marriage should be an issue left to the states to decide. This is the position that Bush had on it in 2000 before he flip-flopped and supported a Constitutional ban.

[Jaguar]

I don't think that Kerry's official stated position necessarily matches what he actually believes. He'll say pretty much whatever people want him to say. In the case of gay marriage, I think that he definitely supports it. He does not, as he says, "believe that marriage is between a man and a woman."

I'm accusing him of lying, but it's not necessarily such a bad thing.

[Imran Siddiqui]

He does not, as he says, "believe that marriage is between a man and a woman."

How do you know?

[Ramo]

Since some people are getting excited over the meaningless, ridiculous, imaginary, demographic group such as cell phone owners when talking about voting patterns, I thought of several other ridiculous demographic groups:

It might've been a better use of your time to consider why this statistic was brought up, than writing a nonsense rant.

Cell phone-only users aren't polled. So most polls ignore this relatively significant, very pro-Kerry group.

[Boris Godunov]

First results already in:

N.H. mountain hamlets cast first votes
15 for Bush, 15 for Kerry in Hart's Location

The Associated Press
Updated: 12:38 a.m. ET Nov. 2, 2004HART’S LOCATION,

N.H. - The nation’s first Election Day votes were cast and counted just after midnight Tuesday in this mountain hamlet, with President Bush and John Kerry each receiving 15 votes. Ralph Nader received one.

The communities of Hart’s Location and Dixville Notch since 1948 sporadically have been taking advantage of a state law that allows communities to close polls early if all registered voters have cast ballots. The 26 registered voters in Dixville Notch were still were casting votes shortly after midnight.

In 2000, both communities chose President Bush over Democrat Al Gore. In Hart’s Location, Bush won 17-13. In Dixville Notch, about 50 miles to the north, Bush had 21, Gore five and Ralph Nader one vote.

By state law, polls must be open between 11 a.m. and 7 p.m. But nothing prevents a town from opening the polls earlier and closing after all potential voters have cast ballots.

Hart’s Location began doing just that in 1948 because nearly everyone in town worked for the railroad and many had to be at work before normal voting hours. Dixville followed in 1960.

National media attention to these “first votes” began in 1952, when the state let voters in the state’s earliest presidential primary vote for the candidates themselves rather than delegates to the national party conventions. The Republican primary made news that year because Gen. Dwight Eisenhower upset party favorite Robert A. Taft.

Small towns including Hart’s Location, Millsfield and Waterville Valley soon were competing to cast the nation’s first votes. Hart’s Location dropped early voting in 1964, only to revive it 1996.

Dixville didn’t get into the act until 1960 for the general election. Reflecting the state’s then-solid Republican leanings, Republican Richard Nixon beat Democrat John Kennedy, 9-0.

The Dems are already outperforming 2000 in the votes by a good margin.

[Jaguar]

Imran, I was saying that I think that, not saying it's objective fact. As a relativist, you should understand the difference.


I think he's pro gay marriage because of his vote against the DOMA.

[Drachasor]

Originally posted by MrFun
Since some people are getting excited over the meaningless, ridiculous, imaginary, demographic group such as cell phone owners when talking about voting patterns, I thought of several other ridiculous demographic groups:\

The pollsters can't call cell phones, so the demographic that solely has a cell phone isn't counted in the polls; that's more and more people these days.

The poll was done via text messaging, circumventing the inability to call them (it's a legal inability).

So Kerry being ahead by 15% among cell-phone users is a good sign. It is one more factor that supports the idea of a Kerry-win.

Oh, and I predict Kerry will win with about 300 or more Electoral votes and 51-52% of the vote (Bush will get about 48%).

-Drachasor