Cheney Outrage...Or

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
As for Mary Cheney, she's an adult who is openly gay, openly activist for gay causes and openly activist for the GOP. So I don't see where any "outrage" can be had by envoking her name in a positive context for gay rights. If it also happens to piss off the bigot wing of the Republican Party, all the better.

Has anyone bothered to ask Mary Cheney if she wished to be used as a political chew toy?

[DinoDoc]

Considering the fact the Cheney family's response to the Keyes idiocy, I don't think she does.

[GePap]

The "outrage" from the Cheney family is political posturing pure and simple..

Personally though, I do think it was tactless to metion Lynn by name, it is very obviously a tactic to remind right-wing biggots about it.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
Yeah it's crazy

BTW, gotta love some of the pics from georgewbush.com

Great picture, it's making me want to vote Kerry/Edwards!

[DinoDoc]

You like constipated leaders?

[Gangerolf]

exactly

[Gangerolf]

weird x-post there

[DinoDoc]

I was hoping it was an x-post.

[DanS]

Personally, I don't think this was smart for Kerry because there was a chance that it would be done inartfully and look like it was an attack on Cheney's family. The idea of a whispering campaign is that you whisper rather than announce it outright in a debate.

By the way, I thought Edwards did a good job in mentioning it, but Kerry seemed pretty callous and calculating. It's just the roll of the dice sometimes on these issues.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Ned
Kerry out to simply apologize to the Cheney's and to Mary to the extent the remark was tactless and caused offense.

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Nope. Just can't do it...

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by SpencerH
There was a comment made by the pundits (I dont remember which ones) that there was a big negative reaction by the undecided voters (being monitored during the debate) when Kerry made this remark.

Interesting. I kinda cringed when Kerry said this. I felt it was over the line talking about the other guy's family. But this uneasiness was eclipsed after the debate by the Cheneys' manufactured outrage.

Mrs. Cheney's calling Kerry a "bad man" for mentioning her daughter has an unspoken assumption that being a having a lesbian as a daughter is something to be ashamed about.

VP Cheney's outrage is visually stunning when shown in juxtiposition with a video clip of his debate with Edwards, where Cheney thanks Edwards for complimenting the Cheneys on the reaction to their daughter being a lesbian.

Bottom line: Kerry shudda kept his mouth shut. The Cheneys shudda kept their mouths shut.

[DanS]

The Cheneys shudda kept their mouths shut.

I think I agree with this. But the exposure of the Cheney response is not nearly as great as the comment, if only because many more people watched the debate than those who are hard-wired into the pundit and news industries.

[Richelieu]

I wonder if its a slip or if he did it on purpose. I wouldn't be surprised that Kerry just slipped. He seems like the kind of guy that just loves the sound of his own voice and that can bite you in the a** sometimes.

On the other hand, the kind of people who might care about this on the Republican side will never vote Democrat anyway. But it might influence 1000, 10 000, 20 000 of them to stay home in november maybe? When an election is as close as this one, you'll take watever you can get. I don't see a downside for Kerry on this one.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Has anyone bothered to ask Mary Cheney if she wished to be used as a political chew toy?

I agree -- Mary's parents and other family need to stop using her as a political chew toy by blowing something that was meant to be respectful and considerate, out of proportion into something that was not.

[Pekka]

So... are they ashamed for their daughter being a lezzie? If not, then why the outrage. If yes, they should be ashamed of themselves.