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  • #76
    Che, to you, an extreme lefty, having a fish crack an anti-American joke was probably offensive only because it was insufficiently harsh.
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    • #77
      As to the glorification of drugs, all one has to do is glorify the spaced-out turtle. You don't actually have to show the turtle taking a drag.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


        I likewise couldn't give a crap about Bush perse except that my beef is with IMO obvious media bias.


        I think "the media" prefers claims backed by pieces of paper they can get their hands opn. If most anti-Kerry claims were based solely on accusdations, well, there you have it.

        So stop being a media Girlie-man and get with the program, Girlie-man
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • #79
          Just reading thru this thread.

          It does look like you guys identified the horse movie: Spirit, and agree that the white people and army are protray uniformly evil while the Indians are protrayed uniformly nobel and good.

          i don't see where anybody really agreed with the second half of that sentence. mostly because i don't see anyone who's mentioned that they've seen it.

          You also found the jibe at America from Nemo, and identifed the space-out turtle as the drugged-out hippie.

          yes, and? we still don't see how it's anti-american.

          But, you say, these films have nothing to do with Disney. Really?

          seeing as only finding nemo has a connection to disney, and that's of disney being the distributor, not the creative engine... and the other movie being dreamworks interactive, which is not disney...

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          What offended me most about these films is that I did not expect to be assualted with leftist propaganda, racism and glorification of drugs at a kids movie. I expect it from MTV and the degenerate, left-loving, Hollywood; but not from anything with a Disney label on it.

          what leftist propaganda? where was the glorification of drugs? where was the anti-americanism?

          i don't know about spirit, but where was racism in finding nemo?

          you make these allegations, ned. pony up, what should we be looking for?
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          • #80
            As to what the Indians think of a so-called white invasion, I don't have to guess too hard. There were relatively few periods of peaceful coexistence for 300+ years until we convinced the Indians to live on reservations, subsidized by the government. There was ample hate on both sides of that particular equation.

            if by convinced, you mean by the point of a gun...
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            • #81
              Che, to you, an extreme lefty, having a fish crack an anti-American joke was probably offensive only because it was insufficiently harsh.

              it was a one-liner, and a throwaway joke at that. i fail to see how that makes a whole movie somehow anti-american, particularly because the rest of the movie is set in and around australia...
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              • #82
                As to the glorification of drugs, all one has to do is glorify the spaced-out turtle. You don't actually have to show the turtle taking a drag.

                wow, i think you're reading way too much into this.

                are you sure you don't know any spaced-out people? who are spaced-out, even if they aren't on drugs?
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Q Cubed
                  As to the glorification of drugs, all one has to do is glorify the spaced-out turtle. You don't actually have to show the turtle taking a drag.

                  wow, i think you're reading way too much into this.

                  are you sure you don't know any spaced-out people? who are spaced-out, even if they aren't on drugs?
                  Q Cubed, I guess you just have to live in LA (the greater metro area) to fully understand the what the space-out turtle represented.

                  The anti-white racism came out of Spirit, not Nemo.
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                  • #84
                    Q Cubed, I guess you just have to live in LA (the greater metro area) to fully understand the what the space-out turtle represented.

                    no, it's just that i know plenty of who _are_ that spacy, who _do_ talk like that, and do so when they're not high _and_ sober...
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                    • #85
                      The anti-white racism came out of Spirit, not Nemo.

                      which was not a disney movie, but a dreamworks skg movie--which, mind you, is part of that hollywood thing you seem to hate.

                      so how is disney anti-american?
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Q Cubed
                        Q Cubed, I guess you just have to live in LA (the greater metro area) to fully understand the what the space-out turtle represented.

                        no, it's just that i know plenty of who _are_ that spacy, who _do_ talk like that, and do so when they're not high _and_ sober...
                        Of course. And you get that way from smoking pot.

                        (Thinking of Cheech and Chong.)
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                        • #87
                          Uhm English surfers (and Australians at a guess) probably talk exactly the same. i knew one in college, every second word was dude.

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                          • #88
                            My apologies to Disney if they had nothing to do with Spirit.

                            DreamWorks L.L.C has moguls times three. Created in 1994 by Steven Spielberg (famed film director/producer), Jeffrey Katzenberg (former Disney film executive and animation guru), and David Geffen (recording industry maven), DreamWorks produces animated features (Shrek), live action movies (Catch Me if You Can), and TV shows (Las Vegas). DreamWorks Animation is the studio's Silicon Valley-based computer-animation arm. DreamWorks pulled out of the GameWorks video arcade business it started with SEGA and Universal Pictures, and has sold its music business to Universal Music. The three founders collectively own the majority of DreamWorks; Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen also owns a stake.

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                            • #89
                              Of course. And you get that way from smoking pot.

                              (Thinking of Cheech and Chong.)

                              you know, i'm not some rube who's never run into this sort of thing...

                              no, i do remember people who were like that, and are straight edge... they don't talk like surfers, per se, but they do have that spacey attitude, throw in numerous particles like that...
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                              • #90
                                DreamWorks L.L.C has moguls times three. Created in 1994 by Steven Spielberg (famed film director/producer), Jeffrey Katzenberg (former Disney film executive and animation guru), and David Geffen (recording industry maven), DreamWorks produces animated features (Shrek), live action movies (Catch Me if You Can), and TV shows (Las Vegas). DreamWorks Animation is the studio's Silicon Valley-based computer-animation arm. DreamWorks pulled out of the GameWorks video arcade business it started with SEGA and Universal Pictures, and has sold its music business to Universal Music. The three founders collectively own the majority of DreamWorks; Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen also owns a stake.

                                well aware of this. the reason why it's called dreamworks skg is because the skg comes from the founders' surnames.

                                how is disney anti-american?
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