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  • #61
    Originally posted by GePap


    Thankfully, the bloggospehre remains a minor and relative unimportant echo chmaber with little relevance to the populace as a whole. Much like Holocaust deniers, moon landing conspiracy people and Scientologists.

    The best blogs respond to other blogs of different ideological persuasion, even when they have a strong point of view. And many are followed closely by the mainstream media - in fact they overlap the mainstream media - some MSM like Josh Marshall and Mickey Kaus and TNR and NRO have blogs, some bloggers get published in MSM, and some ex-MSM like Andy Sullivan have blogs and also occasionally get columns in MSM. Blogs arent really a seperate world from MSM, theyre just another medium.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #62
      The blog discussion is with Ogie and relates to the charge these new documents about Bush's national guard record were forgeries. I really don;t give a crap, since I don;t care if bush was a cocaine fiend and giving blowjobs to sailors for his booze money at the time, since my vote against him is based on the fact I think his policies have been a disaster and don;t like him personally.
      If you don't like reality, change it! me
      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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      • #63
        quote:
        Originally posted by Stuie
        Are you sure Ned didn't mean Dori? I think she fits the "spaced out, drugged-addled hippie" profile better.


        Originally posted by FrustratedPoet


        She fits a "ditzy dumb blonde" sterotype much better.


        Come to think of it, she may very well represent America's youth with it's short attention span and it's...

        /me zaps to another thread...
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • #64
          Where's Ned?
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #65
            Originally posted by FrustratedPoet


            I think the "smack" link in the chain is redundant, but I get the point. Thanks.
            Don't you people know anything.

            Originally posted by Prince
            #Sister killed her baby cuz she could afford 2 feed it
            And we're sending people 2 the moon
            In September my cousin tried reefer 4 the very first time
            Now he's doing horse, it's June
            #
            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
            Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            • #66
              Apparently not.
              If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by alva

                Don't you people know anything.

                Originally posted by Prince
                #Sister killed her baby cuz she could afford 2 feed it
                And we're sending people 2 the moon
                In September my cousin tried reefer 4 the very first time
                Now he's doing horse, it's June
                #

                Whitey on the Moon
                Gil Scott Heron
                A rat done bit my sister Nell.
                (with Whitey on the moon)
                Her face and arms began to swell.
                (and Whitey's on the moon)
                I can't pay no doctor bill.
                (but Whitey's on the moon)
                Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
                (while Whitey's on the moon)
                The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
                ('cause Whitey's on the moon)
                No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
                (but Whitey's on the moon)
                I wonder why he's uppi' me?
                ('cause Whitey's on the moon?)
                I wuz already payin' 'im fifty a week.
                (with Whitey on the moon)
                Taxes takin' my whole damn check,
                Junkies makin' me a nervous wreck,
                The price of food is goin' up,
                An' as if all that **** wuzn't enough:
                A rat done bit my sister Nell.
                (with Whitey on the moon)
                Her face an' arm began to swell.
                (but Whitey's on the moon)
                Was all that money I made las' year
                (for Whitey on the moon?)
                How come there ain't no money here?
                (Hmm! Whitey's on the moon)
                Y'know I jus' 'bout had my fill
                (of Whitey on the moon)
                I think I'll sen' these doctor bills,
                Airmail special
                (to Whitey on the moon)
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  Where's Ned?
                  Just reading thru this thread.

                  It does look like you guys identified the horse movie: Spirit, and agree that the white people and army are protray uniformly evil while the Indians are protrayed uniformly nobel and good.

                  You also found the jibe at America from Nemo, and identifed the space-out turtle as the drugged-out hippie.

                  But, you say, these films have nothing to do with Disney. Really?
                  http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                  • #69
                    I still don't get the jibe at America from Finding Nemo. Spaced out turtle is not, like, a durgged out hippie, dude. He's like, a surfer, dude. That's the way sufers talk, dude.

                    BTW, Ned, have you ever looked at how American Indians viewed the white invasion?
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #70
                      What offended me most about these films is that I did not expect to be assualted with leftist propaganda, racism and glorification of drugs at a kids movie. I expect it from MTV and the degenerate, left-loving, Hollywood; but not from anything with a Disney label on it.
                      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                      • #71
                        Glorification of drugs? Leftist propaganda? Racism? Did you watch the same movie I watched?

                        Note: never saw Spirit that it looked dumb.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #72
                          Whether or not it's Disney, and Disney does do those things, I can agree that cartoons have become way too keyed towards adults, even if they are marketed towards kids.

                          Even "The Cat and The Hat" was not something I would allow my kid to see until he/she would be at least 12, and even then....
                          Monkey!!!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            Glorification of drugs? Leftist propaganda? Racism? Did you watch the same movie I watched?

                            Note: never saw Spirit that it looked dumb.
                            Of course he did not see the same movie you saw: he saw it at the Nedaverse multiplex.
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                              I still don't get the jibe at America from Finding Nemo. Spaced out turtle is not, like, a durgged out hippie, dude. He's like, a surfer, dude. That's the way sufers talk, dude.

                              BTW, Ned, have you ever looked at how American Indians viewed the white invasion?
                              Perhaps, Che, I have lived longer in California than you have. That turtle was the epitome of the pot-smoking, droopie-eyed, Californian who may or may not like to surf.

                              As to what the Indians think of a so-called white invasion, I don't have to guess too hard. There were relatively few periods of peaceful coexistence for 300+ years until we convinced the Indians to live on reservations, subsidized by the government. There was ample hate on both sides of that particular equation.
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by GePap
                                The blog discussion is with Ogie and relates to the charge these new documents about Bush's national guard record were forgeries. I really don;t give a crap, since I don;t care if bush was a cocaine fiend and giving blowjobs to sailors for his booze money at the time, since my vote against him is based on the fact I think his policies have been a disaster and don;t like him personally.
                                I likewise couldn't give a crap about Bush perse except that my beef is with IMO obvious media bias.
                                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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