spinoff: disney, finding nemo anti-american?

[Q Classic]

I don't want to continue the discussion in the other thread, so this is the spinoff.

Ned alleges that disney is anti-american. Upon questioning, his proof is that

The last two movies put out by the Disney company were a story about a wild horse and a lost fish. In the horse movie, the white people, particularly the army, were unversally protrayed as evil, while the Indians were portrayed as nobel, oppressed victims.

In the Nemo movie, there are crass jokes about "Americans" and a character, portrayed as a hero, who is nothing more than a spaced out, drugged-addled hippie.

Now, my response to it is this:

i haven't seen the horse movie, but the native americans were oppressed victims... i don't know how one could think them anything but that.

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what crass jokes about americans? the movie was set in australia. how is a spaced-out, drug-addled hippie anti-american?
nemo, btw, was made by pixar, not disney.

Dauphin suggests that the drug-addled hippie, who i can't think of, refers to the turtles, though i can't see how any of the allegations stick.

the turtle as a hero? jeez, he was in there maybe all of fifteen-twenty minutes, was clearly a "surfer dude"... there's no mention of drugs at all in that exchange--unless it's not possible to get high off of anything other than drugs... he wasn't particularly spaced-out, just easy-going... and how the hell is that anti-american?

finally, Eisner had nothing to do with Finding Nemo, really.

I'm just completely lost at how a movie like that could be read as anti-American.

[GePap]

Precious

Obviously, Nemo is unamerican. I mean, look at the attacks against the US navy and the quality of our sunken submarines?

[Japher]

Cacadejour... Star Wars is Racist!!!!!!!

Disney was a commie

[FrustratedPoet]

What I don't get is how the white people in the horse movie being universally evil is anti-american?
Not all whites are american and not all americans are white, but maybe Ned keeps forgetting that and needs to be reminded from time to time.

Also, there aren't any drug-addled spaced-out hippies in Finding Nemo.

I wonder if Ned has seen the same movies as the rest of us.

[GePap]

Ned meant the surfer turtle.

[FrustratedPoet]

oh, Ned thinks the turtle is a drugged-out hippy just because he speaks with the vocal cadence and slang of the surfing community. We can file that one alongside the implicit "black people aren't americans" comment he made earlier.

[FrustratedPoet]

i x-posted twice.

[Spec]

Nemo makes fun of Americans, which is not anti-american, only funny.

People can be so ''suceptible'' sometimes.


Spec.

[Japher]

Disney has been making white ppl out to be bad in most of their cartoons lately, only because they have been making native american flicks. Don't see what is unAmerican about that.

At least they told Michael Moore to F'off

[Q Classic]

Nemo makes fun of Americans, which is not anti-american, only funny.

granted, i haven't seen the movie in a few months, but i can't recall one joke at all at the expense of americans...

[Stuie]

Are you sure Ned didn't mean Dori? I think she fits the "spaced out, drugged-addled hippie" profile better.

And I think there was exactly ONE joke in the movie that could have been construed as "anti-American", but I can't remember it right now. Maybe I'll make some popcorn and watch it with the kids this weekend.

[FrustratedPoet]

Nemo also pokes fun at Australians, dentists, clown fish, seagulls, sharks, people with poor memories, over-protective fathers and naively over-confident children.

What a hate-fest that movie is. It's a ****ing disgrace.

[Japher]

Disney IS evil, don't get me wrong. They like to kill Moms.

[lord of the mark]

Finding Nemo

1. Was clearly hostile to the Iraqi people. The humans were treated as bad, especially the girl, IIRC, and they were all AUSTRALIAN, a key member of the coalition of the willing. C'mon, shouldnt the bad guys have been French? OTOH maybe they were members of the Australian Labour Party.


2. FN clearly emphasized the role of men as fathers, and as single parents. This is either lefty feminist drivel, with its suggestions of role reversal, or an assertion of the viewpoint of the "Mens rights" movement.

3. The good guy fish in the dentists tank was pretty anti-authoritarian. OTOH Nemo learned to listen to his father, who only wanted the best for him.

4. The movie featured notorious Lesbian Ellen De Generes. OTOH the character she played was "straight", no?

5. The movie mocked 12 step programs (fish are friends, not food) which is either an atheist attacked on 12 steps well known theism, or a conservative attack on the "culture of recovery".

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Stuie
Are you sure Ned didn't mean Dori? I think she fits the "spaced out, drugged-addled hippie" profile better.

She fits a "ditzy dumb blonde" sterotype much better.