Rapist and murderer of schoolgirl hanged

[KrazyHorse]

Why? The confinement and the self-defense are justified by the same action. The agressor lost his rights by trying to take someone elses away.

I'll ask you one question Kid: what crimes do you support the death penalty for?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

Why? The confinement and the self-defense are justified by the same action. The agressor lost his rights by trying to take someone elses away.

I'll ask you one question Kid: what crimes do you support the death penalty for?

Try reading the thread rockhead.

[KrazyHorse]

"rockhead"? do try harder

Do you support the death penalty for armed robbery?

[grobnok]

Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
Uh, because often people got into jail purposely simply because they could receive free food and not work (that hard?)

Which is discouraged, simply because you are taking up valuable inmate space, leeching off the government, etc., so pain was introduced.

Bear in mind caning isn't used until felonies come in.

You get caned for sparypainting a car, smashing a window. And in school, not doing your assignments.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
"rockhead"? do try harder

Do you support the death penalty for armed robbery?

Are you drunk or something?

[KrazyHorse]

No, but you appear to be. Do you support the death penalty for armed robbery?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
No, but you appear to be. Do you support the death penalty for armed robbery?

My answer to you is to read the thread and you will find out.

I don't know what your problem is with me. You don't seem to like what I say, but I don't really know why so I can't respond.

If you have a point just make it instead of trying to bait me.

[Ming]

Would you guys just chill a little

Discuss the topic... not each other.

[grobnok]

Originally posted by grobnok

You get caned for sparypainting a car, smashing a window. And in school, not doing your assignments.

These are small crimes. This shows that the singaporian law is oppressive.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Kidicious


My answer to you is to read the thread and you will find out.

I don't know what your problem is with me. You don't seem to like what I say, but I don't really know why so I can't respond.

If you have a point just make it instead of trying to bait me.

You should have already seen the point.

If you support the death penalty for the same reason that you support the right to self-defense: that by attempting to take away the rights of another you have forfeited your own, then why is it that an armed robber may be shot in self defense during the act while a convicted armed robber may not be executed?

You really do need to find some new insults though. Telling me I'm a rockhead is something out of grade school, and asking if I'm drunk just makes me sad that I'm not.

[Kuciwalker]

It's Kidicious. Don't expect intelligence from him.

[Ben Kenobi]

Why? The confinement and the self-defense are justified by the same action. The agressor lost his rights by trying to take someone elses away.

Well, I would argue in my own defense, that I would not be justified in the use of force to kill my assailant, even in self-defense, which would confirm your point that you are making here, but that's just me.

There is another argument available that makes a distinction between the actions of an individual and those of the state. An individual can act in self-defense by killing someone in order to spare their own life. The state cannot do the same.

[Natalinasmpf]

You get caned for sparypainting a car, smashing a window. And in school, not doing your assignments.

But its not just spray painting a car, or smashing a window, which, I may say, vandalism is already a very serious crime in Singapore. Oppressive? Hardly. Conservative? Yes.

But its not just that, its some stupid idiot who thinks, just because he's American, he can do whatever he wants to our property.

Therefore a strong deterrent sentence has to be imposed, as a sign, as in principle, that we will NOT tolerate US nationalism or arrogance of any kind.

[Ben Kenobi]

OK, well, I'll just take away the right to life, then. They can keep all the others.

That works really well, Skywalker.

They have to have life in order to exercise any of their other rights, which implies a heirarchy of rights with the right to life at the top.

Ergo, one can strip someone of some of the lower and lesser rights without stripping their highest rights.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
If you support the death penalty for the same reason that you support the right to self-defense: that by attempting to take away the rights of another you have forfeited your own, then why is it that an armed robber may be shot in self defense during the act while a convicted armed robber may not be executed?

I'm sorry. You made a rude comment about my posts a week ago or so, so I was being defensive when I saw the laugh.

You bring up a good point though. I wouldn't shoot an armed robber I think unless I thought he was really going to kill me, and most of them don't. If someone tried to kill me I would defend myself as far as killing them. I've given two reasons why I don't support the death penalty. One is a falty justice system, and the other is the opportunity for the criminal to show remorse. Does this answer your question? If not maybe you can ask another one. You make a good point though.