Rapist and murderer of schoolgirl hanged

[PLATO]

Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that? What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him? Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??

No doubt that it was justified. People like this need not be a burden on society...they forfiet their rights with their crime.

[Q Classic]

Amazing how human rights activists are for the rights of the murderer, rather then the victim.

nice troll.

i still don't think the death penalty can ever be justified. lock 'em up forever under baseline conditions, that's what i say.

[Whaleboy]

Precedent?

...what?

Support, demonstrate or propagate the states "morality" by opportunistically violating an individual.

Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that?

The state does not sanction life, it does not hold a big pot of life which it hands out piecemeal to its citizens on the basis of good behaviour! If you make the proposition of keeping him incarcerated, he is your responsibility and thus must maintain him, and if he dies as a result of your actions that is murder. If you do not want to pay, let him go or send him into exile*, but you cannot have it both ways and keep it logically sound.

*If you consider it irresponsible then incarcerate him, whereby the you have the responsibility to maintain him, or you would murder.

What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him?

Like I said, if the state wants to keep him locked up, punish or rehab him, then it takes the responsibility of his life unto itself, whereby if it does not want to murder it cannot let him die. If he is released from the states prison and subsequently dies, that is his concern.

Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??

I should think it is nto a message of consequence that the state should ever give out, rather a message of intent. If you want a consistent legal system you cannot do that.

No doubt that it was justified. People like this need not be a burden on society...they forfiet their rights with their crime.

Rights are non-existent in any case, they are merely a legal recognition to the states tolerance of ones free will, which exists nonetheless. They may forfeit their rights but it is thus a subjective decision by the state which has no objective authority to act upon that and impose on him. If the state does not want him to be a burden on them, then let him go. That would be stupid of course. Better stupid tahn irresponsible and murderous.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
Support, demonstrate or propagate the states "morality" by opportunistically violating an individual.

Open all the prisons then because that is exactly what they do.

[Tuberski]

If this ***** had done that to my daughter, he would have lived 15 years after the fact.

ACK!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The death penalty is only justified for crimes against humanity.

This was a crime against humanity. Specifically, that 14 year old girl.

[Whaleboy]

Open all the prisons then because that is exactly what they do.

Hardly, they contain a threat to the public and hopefully will start to provide better means of rehabilitation.

This was a crime against humanity. Specifically, that 14 year old girl.

Define humanity.

[Verres]

Perhaps he should just have been allowed a few hours with the girl's family...who would have various instruments of torture at hand, just i case they wished to use them.

Not that i would be advocating people taking the law into their own hands...just saying give him the same chance as he gave his victim.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Amazing how human rights activists are for the rights of the murderer, rather then the victim.

Huh? We are not calling for the victim to be hanged instead, yaknow.

It's just that a society, where murdering people is justified in certain circumstances, encourages the delusion that it would be okay to victimize us that way in others.

Edit: 2 commas added.

[Tuberski]

I'm sure that post was supposed to make sense.

The way I think you meant it, those delusional others don't will kill regardless of whether or not CP is enforced.

ACK!

[St Leo]

Originally posted by PLATO
Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that? What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him? Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??

If you introduce a death penalty for rape, then you are encouraging rapists to murder their victims so as to avoid conviction and get away scot free.

If you introduce a death penalty for murder, then you are encouraging murderes to murder all possible witnesses and kill any cops that come after them so that they may get way scot free.

Cornered animals bite back.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Tuberski
I'm sure that post was supposed to make sense.

ACK!

I was making a slippery slope argument.

[Tuberski]

No I mean a couple of commas would have helped it make sense.

ACK!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by St Leo

Originally posted by PLATO
Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that? What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him? Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??

If you introduce a death penalty for rape, then you are encouraging rapists to murder their victims so as to avoid conviction and get away scot free.

If you introduce a death penalty for murder, then you are encouraging murderes to murder all possible witnesses and kill any cops that come after them so that they may get way scot free.

Cornered animals bite back.

That logic extends to ANY punishment. The criminal is always encouraged to do anything possible to cover up the crime, unless doing that would make him guilty of a crime with a punishment greater enough to counter the lesser chance of being found out.

[Last Conformist]

I'm opposed to capital punishment for various reasons I can't be bothered to detail here.

In this case, I can think of so much worse punishments that would be more appealing to the ol' vindictiveness, so killing him off seems like pretty much a waste.