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  • #91
    Cool.

    Now you're up to 5 year old Windows games.

    Why do things the hard way?

    Or you could run setup.exe twice and be up and running.
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #92
      Actually, I never did that.

      I just freed up the stupid FAT32 space taken up by Windows and converted it to Linux reiserfs. Now that I have SMAC for Linux, I no longer have to dual boot anymore.

      fat32 is the only thing that both windows and linux can access safely. which is why i use it for all of my document storage, since i do dual boot.

      and you still haven't answered my distro question.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ted Striker
        Cool.

        Now you're up to 5 year old Windows games.

        Why do things the hard way?

        Or you could run setup.exe twice and be up and running.


        Good God, I once made the mistake of trying to install Quake 3 for Linux. It never did work, after about 3 hours of f*cking around.

        I swear to God, any sane non-programming/irc geek person who uses Linux for a day would come crawling back to Windows rather quickly.

        Lots of people try Linux, very few dual boot it, and a pathetically small amount of people have it as their only OS. That should tell people something.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #94
          for a day would come crawling back to Windows rather quickly.


          That is your assumption.

          Lots of people try Linux, very few dual boot it, and a pathetically small amount of people have it as their only OS. That should tell people something.


          Assumption, again!

          and you still haven't answered my distro question.


          Sorry. It was?

          fat32 is the only thing that both windows and linux can access safely


          You can replace io.sys with an "upgraded" one that allows you to access reiserfs filesystems, IIRC. There are also a lot of applications allowing to use reiserfs from Windows. FAT32 is horrible....

          Now you're up to 5 year old Windows games


          So? It is a most glorious game. American Conquest from CDV, actually, also runs.

          ood God, I once made the mistake of trying to install Quake 3 for Linux. It never did work, after about 3 hours of f*cking around.


          What you tried to install it via rpm?

          Quake 3 took 2 mins to uncompress, 3 mins to install. Yes. WineX games take a minimal amount of configuration. For optimality, you can link it against winelib.
          Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
          The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
          Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
          We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
            That is your assumption.
            It is not an assumption when it's a generally accepted truth.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #96
              So? It is a most glorious game. American Conquest from CDV, actually, also runs.
              It illustrates how Linux itself is 5 years behind when it comes to the desktop.

              Linux on the desktop makes progress when it emulates the most successful parts of Windows. Unfortunatley by the time it catches up, Windows has already moved ahead again.
              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #97
                Not a lot of truth in it. Generally, most of my classmates which I have advocated it to, have no problems.

                Linux on the desktop makes progress when it emulates the most successful parts of Windows. Unfortunatley by the time it catches up, Windows has already moved ahead again.


                Wrong. It started behind, but it is catching up. The tortoise and the hare. Linux on the desktop is moving at a tad faster speed. It'll take some time to catch up yes, but there the disparity is closing. If you hadn't looked at Novell's and SuSE's new products...

                It illustrates how Linux itself is 5 years behind when it comes to the desktop.


                American Conquest came out last year.
                Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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                • #98
                  Or maybe they are giving you lip service.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #99
                    How do you know? They really have no problems. I come over often.

                    When not occupied with homework, obviously.
                    Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                    The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                    Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                    We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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                    • #100
                      Originally posted by Natalinasmpf

                      Wrong. It started behind, but it is catching up. The tortoise and the hare. Linux on the desktop is moving at a tad faster speed. It'll take some time to catch up yes, but there the disparity is closing. If you hadn't looked at Novell's and SuSE's new products...

                      Linux geeks say this every year. "In 5 years we will replace Windows on the desktop."

                      Well that was 5 years ago. And so the cycle continues.

                      Ximian is nice but it's no Windows.
                      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
                        Not a lot of truth in it. Generally, most of my classmates which I have advocated it to, have no problems.
                        I work at a large company that's pumping up Linux like no tomorrow, and you wouldn't believe the stories I hear at lunch about people's Linux installs.

                        You wouldn't believe the service cases I've had to deal with for Linux installs. 99% of the time it's a weird dependency error, or incompatible version of an obscure library that they didn't even know was installed. Linux is hell...

                        Wrong. It started behind, but it is catching up. The tortoise and the hare. Linux on the desktop is moving at a tad faster speed. It'll take some time to catch up yes, but there the disparity is closing. If you hadn't looked at Novell's and SuSE's new products...
                        How is it moving faster? What kind of advancements has Linux's desktop environments made in the past, say, 3 years? Every new version of Gnome, people ***** about it more than they praise it. Many people hate the new Gtk filepicker because you can't even type in a frickin' filename.

                        Linux on the desktop now is comparable to somewhere between Win3.1/Win95 -- it's inconsistent, it's kludgey, it's under-responsive, and it's limited.

                        Linux is about 4 years from being on the level of quality, polish, and consistency of XP, and about 10 years from the technology of Longhorn.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
                          How do you know? They really have no problems. I come over often.

                          When not occupied with homework, obviously.
                          I work with alot of Windows techies who come over and ask for advice on installing Linux, and all the UNIXes.


                          They want to learn Linux because they want to expand their skills. Normally they have no problems installing it since they use the newest Redhat/Fedora and it's pretty foolproof. (aka a Windows type installer which involves clicking the "next" button).

                          But the end result is that it always sits in the corner, maybe they use it once every blue moon.


                          When they want to get actual work done they use their trusted Windows workstations.
                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • #103
                            Linux has its place but the desktop is not one of them.


                            I'll use it occasionally for X forwarding and ssh but that's about it.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Ted Striker
                              Linux has its place but the desktop is not one of them.

                              I'll use it occasionally for X forwarding and ssh but that's about it.
                              It's still a pain in the server/workstation world. I didn't think it was as much until I started working here. Linux cases are just so terrible, they cause headaches.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #105
                                Dependency hell! My brain hurts just thinking about it.

                                Speaking of which, do you know of any free X servers for Windows? (Other than the Cygwin one).

                                We found one called WinAxe that is only $100, but other than that there doesn't seem to be anything else except for like Hummingbird which always runs at like $1500.

                                I'll use VNC sometimes but this I would like to find something that doesn't take up so much window space, something that runs as an app you can minimize to the task bar, etc. WinAxe does this but I'm a cheapskate.
                                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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