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  • #31
    The problem with age limits is greater than that in laws on rape/sex. Why is it, for instance, that you're allowed to vote and do some other things only when you turn 18 (or 21 as the case may be). I know many who are so immature in their 18 years that they clearly should not be allowed to do such things, while others are mature enough at 16 to vote and do everything thinking about the consequences, the limit being just a hassle.

    However, there is no way that laws can have any sort of an individualistic approach, which is their weakness. Therefore, some line has to be drawn by age, and one can only hope that it's half reasonable.
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    • #32
      I think you can have an individualistic approach. Have some means of assessing when the girl is ready physically and psychologically and change her legal status thus, irrespective of age. You could almost call it a rite of passage and would make bat mitzvahs a helluva lot more interesting . That has the advantage of introducing risk to the would-be attacker, that girls below a reasonable age, say 16 (whereupon the rite would be irrelevant) may not be ready. I'm not saying its ideal but it's not like we are faced with an impossible situation.
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      • #33
        You see, if a completely mature and very responsible 15 year old has sex with an 18 years old, who in court is going to prove that she is mature enough to think for herself? We even have no means to determine or prove that somehow. Yes, the people who know her well would be able to assess her maturity and mention that in court, but that's never going to happen.
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        • #34
          If anti-sodomy laws are unconstitutionally invasive of privacy, boning licenses most definitely are. And while I (somewhat) hate to stereotype, historically teenagers have not been too responsive to rules and regulations. Leave the laws as they are. If they're unjust, I won't lose sleep over a few guys' thwarted urges to screw 14-year-olds. Oh, the tragedy...
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          • #35
            Anything below 12 is too young....
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            • #36
              Originally posted by General Ludd

              I can't visualize a guy's buddy coming up to him and saying "hey yo, ain't she too young for you". Just not gonna happen...


              I would deffinately say somethign to that effect.





              But I have no friends, so I guess it's moot.
              well it doesnt happen. trust me. if ur friend is working something up with someone ALOT younger, usually u would be like saying, "Dont tell me anything. I'd rather not know".

              trust me, last thing you wanna do is end up in court testifying against your friend.....
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              • #37
                well it doesnt happen. trust me. if ur friend is working something up with someone ALOT younger, usually u would be like saying, "Dont tell me anything. I'd rather not know".
                Maybe you would be. I'd be telling him that he was a ****ing *******.
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                • #38
                  Those who want to hit it with adolecents need to be hit in the face.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Drogue
                    Even the 15 year old boy? Or the 18 year old boy? Does it make it so much worse when the bloke is older, apart from the simple disgust factor, is there a reason? And why can't a 14 year old decide for herself? If she's as mature as most 14 year olds seem to be nowadays, I think she's perfectly capable to decide for herself when she wants to have sex. Personally, I'd consider murder worse than sex with a teenager.
                    Maybe she could decide, maybe she could not. As it stands, a minor is legally seen as unable to make a binding decision. They can't sign contracts that can be enforced. So, presumably, they are also assumed unable to make informed decisions wrt sexual intercourse.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker
                      Those who want to hit it with adolecents need to be hit in the face.


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                      • #41
                        Re: "Isn't she a little young?"

                        Originally posted by Jac de Molay
                        Messages such as "Isn't she a little young?" and "Sex with a minor, don't go there" are intended to reduce statutory rape and what the department calls sexual coercion.
                        They need to tell people this?

                        What's next? An ad campaign saying: "Stop, she's your daughter!"
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                        • #42
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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                          • #43
                            I blame it all on Hilary Duff. she's just so cute and young and ****able.
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                            • #44
                              [QUOTE] Originally posted by Solver
                              In my country, if a guy who's 18 has sex with a girl younger than 16, that's a criminal act. And that's damn right. I in no way think that most 14 olds can decide whether they want to have sex.
                              I disagree. I'm not going to endlessly argue the point, I know many think they aren't ready to decide, while many think they are.

                              Originally posted by Solver
                              While I know for a fact that the overwhelming majority of girls who have sex at 14 or 15 regret it afterwards.
                              You don't know the overwhelming majority of girls who have sex at 14 or 15.

                              Originally posted by Solver
                              And of course, murder is worse than having sex with a teenager. Murder is, under usual circumstances, the worst crime.
                              I'd say torture, personally, but that's my opinion.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                                I blame it all on Hilary Duff. she's just so cute and young and ****able.
                                And looksa lot older than she is. Which is another point. if she lies about her age, are you responsible? If a 14 year old girl, who looks old enough to get into clubs/bars (very common here) lies about her age and sleeps with someone, has he broken a law? He didn't think she was underage, she lied to get him into bed, it's her deception. What would be the outcome?
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