"Isn't she a little young?"

[Winston]

Men are monsters, mkay.

Just try being a monster to someone roughly your own age.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Guynemer




With a big old board. With a nail through it. Repeatedly.

Or just one load of #6 shot. Just once will do the trick.

[Guynemer]

Over too quick. Not enough punishment, and not enough enjoyment for the punisher.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
I think you can have an individualistic approach.

You cannot. The law requires everyone be treated the same, and judgement calls on something like this would be subject to wildly different views and leave the whole system open to attack. You would not be able to weed out prejudices from a highly emotional issue like this and no one making the judgement call would be able to defend themselves against charges of discrimination.

[Straybow]

In most states a minor can petition for legal adult status. Typically a motion is only heard for someone who has either graduated early or dropped out of HS and making a respectable attempt to live a mature, responsible life.

I doubt any state would grant it for a 13 or 14 year old.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Re: "Isn't she a little young?"

Originally posted by Jac de Molay
[It might be that it seems to unfairly target the male gender as a whole, as if to sternly remind us all not to succumb to our baser instincts (or "don't go there"), and have sex with minors.

I am unconcerned about what ever offensive may be taken by baby rapers.

[Drogue]

Re: Re: "Isn't she a little young?"

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
I am unconcerned about what ever offensive may be taken by baby rapers.

I'd agree completely. Raping a baby and having consensual sex with a 14 year old are completely different things though.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Adults having sex with 13 or 14 year old girls pushes the envelope on "consensual". The relationship would almost certainly be so unbalanced that it would be very difficult to view it as anything other than abuse.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Drogue

And looksa lot older than she is. Which is another point. if she lies about her age, are you responsible? If a 14 year old girl, who looks old enough to get into clubs/bars (very common here) lies about her age and sleeps with someone, has he broken a law? He didn't think she was underage, she lied to get him into bed, it's her deception. What would be the outcome?

In Canada-- not guilty-- if you took reasonable steps to ascertain the age


(4) It is not a defence to a charge under section 151 or 152, subsection 160(3) or 173(2), or section 271, 272 or 273 that the accused believed that the complainant was fourteen years of age or more at the time the offence is alleged to have been committed unless the accused took all reasonable steps to ascertain the age of the complainant.

So what is "reasonable"?


I believe the courts have allowed the simple "she looked old enough" defence ( ie really took no steps) a few times when meeting a girl in a bar and where there was no reason to lead you to believe she was under the age of 14. The courts have had a lot less sympathy with guys in circumstances where there should be any doubt as to the age of the woman in question. Big tip .. . if she mentions her junior prom, you might want to see some ID.


A defence lawyer freind of mine said he figured his client would be acquitted when he placed the "victim" on the stand dressed as she was the night she seduced the guy at a bar. He KNEW he would be acquitted when he asked the "victim" why she had never said anything to anyone ( complaint was laid by her parents once the rumour mill got back to them) and she responded that "Joe was the best lay I ever had".

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Adults having sex with 13 or 14 year old girls pushes the envelope on "consensual". The relationship would almost certainly be so unbalanced that it would be very difficult to view it as anything other than abuse.

I would disagree. If the adult has abused his position of power (teacher, godparent, or some such) then sure, but I don't see why 14 year olds nowadays are not capable of deciding for themselves. I'd go less far than calling for the age of consent to be reduced to 12, as was the recommendation of a study I saw recently (something my mum brought home from work at the police, have no online link) but I think reducing it to 14 would be sensible.

[Thorn]

No one is too young for a hairy 350 pound man to get his greasy hands on....

[Whaleboy]

Something you want to tell us Thorn?

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Guynemer
With a big old board. With a nail through it. Repeatedly.

Yes, a little hate will solve this problem just like it solves all others.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
Something you want to tell us Thorn?

That his new boyfriend is 350lbs, is hairy, and doesn't bathe?

[Thorn]

blagh, no....... idios!