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  • Florida to Screw up 2004 Election?

    In our fair state, it is illegal for ex-felons to vote. In order to do so, they must apply for clemency from the gov. We are one of eight states that do this.

    Before 2000, the vetting of names to be stricken from the voter rolls was handled by a local firm, which charged the State of Florida $5,000. State law requires that contracts go to the best bid. No one complained.

    In 2000, the bid went to a Republican connected firm that was out of state for several million dollars. More than 50,000 people who were eligible voters, the majority of them Black, were wrongfully stripped of their right to vote.

    Bush "won" the election by a mere 526 votes.

    Well, they're doing it again.

    Rather than make absolutely sure they've got the right people, the state is having a list of likely felons drawn up. It is then the responsibility of each county to contact these people and tell them they've been removed from the voter rolls, by certified mail. The voter than has 30 days from receipt of the certified letter to challenge their status.

    The only saving grace is that people who think they should be eligible to vote can cast a special ballot which will be counted if their challenge is upheld.

    Why isn't the state required to make sure they've got the right person, rather than taking likely people off the rolls.

    God, this state is corrupt.
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    • #3
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      • #4
        Isn't it worse to deny an eligible voter his rights than to allow an ex-felon to vote?
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        • #5
          It is worse to allow illegal aliens to vote than probable would be ex-felons...
          Monkey!!!

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          • #6
            True, but illegal aliens wouldn't get on the voter rolls in the first place.

            Now, if we're talking about letting non-citizen residents of a more legal nature vote, I don't see what's wrong with letting people who pay taxes vote.
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            • #7
              No, I am talking about the walk-ins here in California who are not citizens but somehow manage to get a vote in.
              Monkey!!!

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              • #8
                I can't see how this kind of system could possibly be upheld in court. Supreme Court battle, round 2? (Has anyone sued yet?)
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                Therefore this is not a syllogism.

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                • #9
                  The illegal aliens I know would be very unlikely to take the chance of trying to vote and risking that they will be discovered and kicked out of the country.

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                  • #10
                    Hmm... California voting is interesting in and of itself, but more likely than not, these issues will not determine which way California goes in this election.

                    If I thought differently, I might register to vote in Alameda County (home of Berkeley... and my dad's house), but any state I decide to register to vote in and can concievably do so (dad lives in CA, mom in IN, and I'm in college in GA, which doesn't count as my permanent residence, but we still have a house there which might) is already decided either for Bush or Kerry, so there's not really much of a point.
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                    • #11
                      vote third party
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                      • #12
                        Well, Federal elections will be held in Canada on June 28 (Well it is the worst kept secret that the PM will call the election this Sunday for June 28). Here people in prison are allowed to vote. I am not sure if they set up polling stations in each prison or if they vote in advance by mail.
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                        • #13
                          Ex-felons are denied their democratic rights? WTF? Is this 1930's Germany, or the self-proclaimed land of the free?

                          Shame on you. Eight states!

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                          • #14
                            So just to clarify:

                            "Innocent until proven guilty" is just a nice little saying we have; it doesn't actually mean anything.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jamski
                              Ex-felons are denied their democratic rights?
                              What's wrong with that?
                              God, this state is corrupt
                              They're just amatuers. They should be taking lessons from Illinois.
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