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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
    Cool.

    Now, why don't we try to show Asher some of the beauty of poetry?

    Wouldn't that be more effective than calling him names?
    Because he reduces Sir Walter Raleigh's meditation on his approaching death to 'Sir Walter McNobby masturbating into a tin can.'

    As Dorothy Parker said:

    'You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.'

    I deal with Asher in terms he's capable of understanding.
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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    • Now, you know a little of how I feel on other topics, eh?

      You have to make some kind of connection, on his terms, by trying to find some poetry that he does like.
      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
      "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
      2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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      • Hey, Ben, answer me this: doesn't the commandment "thou shalt have no other gods before me" imply that there ARE other gods???

        A bit off-topic, but I just thought of this today and I was amused by it.
        "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
        Drake Tungsten
        "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
        Albert Speer

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        • What does the term 'gods' mean?

          There's a real reason why they use a different word in the Hebrew between God, and 'gods'. Or lord, and LORD.
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
          2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
            Now, you know a little of how I feel on other topics, eh?

            You have to make some kind of connection, on his terms, by trying to find some poetry that he does like.
            I don't need to read Asher's ill considered drivel to have empathy.

            And don't forget- you warned me I don't know what goes on inside your head, nor would I want to, in a previous thread, in a post that seemed redolent of a hammy impersonation of Jack Nicholson's 'Gitmo' speech in 'A Few Good Men.'

            Since he gives no reason other than 'it's ****' for disliking poetry, I have no idea what his criteria are for poetry he would like. Perhaps odes to a flat screen monitor, or a threnody for the Atari....

            Frankly, the tedious, petulant displays of a science geek, trying and failing to get his own back on the 'artsy' types to salve his own feelings of inadequacy, aren't likely to prompt me to great expressions of altruism.
            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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            • one of my favorite poems
              Titled:Ants

              Adam Had'em
              Lysistrata: It comes down to this: Only we women can save Greece.
              Kalonike: Only we women? Poor Greece!

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              • aren't likely to prompt me to great expressions of altruism.
                I'm sure he enjoyed riling you up.
                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                • my website of poetry. I'm somewhat proud of a few of them. Most of them are barely professional though.

                  "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                  Drake Tungsten
                  "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                  Albert Speer

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                  • Louis MacNeice - Prayer before Birth


                    I am not yet born; O hear me.
                    Let not the bloodsucking bat or the rat or the stoat or the
                    club-footed ghoul come near me.

                    I am not yet born, console me.
                    I fear that the human race may with tall walls wall me,
                    with strong drugs dope me, with wise lies lure me,
                    on black racks rack me, in blood-baths roll me.

                    I am not yet born; provide me
                    With water to dandle me, grass to grow for me, trees to talk
                    to me, sky to sing to me, birds and a white light
                    in the back of my mind to guide me.

                    I am not yet born; forgive me
                    For the sins that in me the world shall commit, my words
                    when they speak me, my thoughts when they think me,
                    my treason engendered by traitors beyond me,
                    my life when they murder by means of my
                    hands, my death when they live me.

                    I am not yet born; rehearse me
                    In the parts I must play and the cues I must take when
                    old men lecture me, bureaucrats hector me, mountains
                    frown at me, lovers laugh at me, the white
                    waves call me to folly and the desert calls
                    me to doom and the beggar refuses
                    my gift and my children curse me.

                    I am not yet born; O hear me,
                    Let not the man who is beast or who thinks he is God
                    come near me.

                    I am not yet born; O fill me
                    With strength against those who would freeze my
                    humanity, would dragoon me into a lethal automaton,
                    would make me a cog in a machine, a thing with
                    one face, a thing, and against all those
                    who would dissipate my entirety, would
                    blow me like thistledown hither and
                    thither or hither and thither
                    like water held in the
                    hands would spill me.

                    Let them not make me a stone and let them not spill me.
                    Otherwise kill me
                    The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                      I'm sure he enjoyed riling you up.
                      He must love failure- I felt pity and scorn, but no anger. His dismissal of poetry is his loss, not mine.

                      Kind pittie chokes my Spleene;

                      Satire III
                      by John Donne


                      Knowledge without sense is double folly.

                      Gracian
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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