John Kerry was the wrong choice... he sucks!

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Jac de Molay
Kerry's intelligent and actually had the balls to serve in a war as opposed to the current crop of neocon chickenhawks.

Getting drafted or enlisting before they draft isn't necessarily ballsy, its justs giving up to the inevitable. Most everyone during this time period wanted to "avoid" getting sent to Vietnam, the more intelligent ones figured out ways to increase their survivablity like getting into National Guard units.

Then you had the stupid and gutless that just ran off to Canada.

[Boris Godunov]

I was never happy with Kerry, that hasn't changed. Sure, I'll vote for him over Bush. But I'd have voted for any of the Dems in the field over Bush. Well, I might have abstained had it been Lieberman or Sharpton. Still, there's just no way I'll vote for Bush.

Why Joe Biden isn't on the ballot, I don't know. Maybe he's saving it for 2008, but every time I see him, he looks more presidential. He'd certainly bring the foreign policy credentials to the ticket. If they were going to draft someone else (and that won't happen, folks, let's not kid ourselves), I'd hope it would be him.

[Chemical Ollie]

Choose between this

[Chemical Ollie]

And this

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I've heard the above tales of doom and gloom. Interesting the take is the same old same old. The Dem's didn't go far left enough.

When will either party actually nominate/run a centrist candidate?

Sometime after we reform the primary system. Unfortunately the foxes are guarding the henhouse here.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Dauphin
And look who he lost to.

Excellent point, especially when Bush wasn't even an incumbent and could barely put a sentence together.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Whoha2
His gaffes aren't a problem, But do you know where he stands on any issue? it isn't that he flipflops so much as he hasn't really stated anything specific. I do not count gay marriage, abortion, or any other side show issue here either.

Exactly. Not being G. W. Bush isn't going to cut it, everyone in the country who isn't already president qualifies there. He's scared to death of taking a stand on any issue that isn't a slam dunk for him. The dems just seem to have a deathwish. Even Bill Clinton was a sure loser against G.H.W. Bush until the long eared galoot from Texas got into the race in 1992.

[Elok]

Ouch, Boris. You weren't implying that Lieberman is as bad as Sharpton, were you?

[Dis]

Lieberman is a sensible democrat, which is almost unheard of now days. But I don't think he has leadership qualities, but he's a fine senator.

[Docfeelgood]

Excellent point, especially when Bush wasn't even an incumbent and could barely put a sentence together.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ann Coulter. I'd hit it.

At least Kerry gets his up higher.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Elok
Ouch, Boris. You weren't implying that Lieberman is as bad as Sharpton, were you?

Depends on what you mean by "as bad as." That could encompass many things. He's "as bad as" Sharpton in terms of him being someone for whom I'd rather not vote at all than vote for. But for different reasons.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
The Republicans had their Dean get nominated once... his name was Barry Goldwater. I'm sure Dean would have had similar success.

And look where they are today. They run the party and control all three branches of government.

[Ben Kenobi]

So short term pain for long term gain?

I can go for that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And look where they are today. They run the party and control all three branches of government.

So that was a direct result of Goldwater? If he were alive now, he wouldn't be pleased with his party.