John Kerry was the wrong choice... he sucks!

[Sava]

Sorry John Kerry fans. I want Bush gone. I thought the process of nomination the Democratic went through was a good way to find the absolute best candidate to take on Bush. At first, looking at Kerry's past, that he was a good choice. But it's apparant to me now that he will probably lose... even IF things keep getting worse.

Kerry's a bore just like Gore. He's a stiff who lacks charisma. The Bush smear machine is making mincemeat of him.

The Democrats should have chosen someone with charisma, or at the very least, a backbone to stand up against the baseless attacks. Bush has like $200 million he's going to spend. As Bill Maher said on Hardball recently, "a good enough television ad campaign could get people to eat paint."

And that's what is going to happen. Bush is going to pump out tons of propaganda ads attacking Kerry and the public will listen to them and vote Bush.

Kerry sucks. I'm still voting for the Democratic nominee because I want Bush gone, but I doubt it will make much difference. The polls on Bush, once dropping, are now rising in recent weeks despite a flurry of bad press for Bush... Iraq getting worse, Bob Woodward's revelations, sluggish economy... and Bush's numbers still rise.

[-Jrabbit]

So what?

--The Bush machine would have it's boatload of cash to use against any nominee. The Dems have been pretty pathetic in fundraising. It would be sad if that was the key factor in the election, but not really surprising.
--The "smear campaign" would be used against any Dem nominee. Just as Kerry is trying to find factoids to use against Bush.
--Polls go up, polls go down. At this point in time 12 years ago, GHW Bush looked like a mortal lock to win.

Bottom line:

It's early. Don't panic.

[SlowwHand]

Too bad you can't run, Sava.
You're such an intellectual stud-muffin.

[rah]

Yeah, it's kind of funny. My wife Hates Bush, but she refuses to vote for Kerry. Too bad for the dems.

[Edan]

Re: John Kerry was the wrong choice... he sucks!

Originally posted by Sava
Bush has like $200 million he's going to spend. As Bill Maher said on Hardball recently, "a good enough television ad campaign could get people to eat paint."

While the commercials have been getting results, it's early days yets and (as of a couple of weeks ago):

The president raised a record $180 million, and half of that was budgeted for campaign operations, the other half for pre-convention advertising. But of the advertising budget, $90 million, the Bush campaign has already spent at least $40 million.

By comparison, John Kerry has spent about $10 million.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4751584/

[Sava]

Originally posted by rah
Yeah, it's kind of funny. My wife Hates Bush, but she refuses to vote for Kerry. Too bad for the dems.

Why's that? Imran, who is right of center, says he likes Kerry. What about Kerry does your wife not like?

J-Rabbit, you're probably right. But I'm a worrier.

Sloww: Someone like me would never win. I'm not going to lie, and I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. To win a presidential election, you need to pander and you need the stupid vote (which is upwards of 75% of voters). Plus, one of my platforms would be ending the drug war. It's hard to win an election in America if your basically pro-drug, but anti-church... like me.

And I wouldn't blow sunshine up people's ass. Sorry. Cynics like me wouldn't win an election. Although, it would be entertaining to watch me go up against somebody like Bush. If he ran an ad saying, "Well, Sava is weak on defense." I'd rebut it with, "**** you douchebag, I'll nuke your ****ing ass and any ******* that ****s with America."

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by rah
My wife Hates Bush, but she refuses to vote for Kerry.

Mrs Horse would understand that kind of logic

[The diplomat]

I told you so! The Dems should have followed my advice and gone with Edwards.

[Sava]

Originally posted by The diplomat
I told you so! The Dems should have followed my advice and gone with Edwards.

one of the rare times I will diplomat

[rah]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


Mrs Horse would understand that kind of logic

yep, that about sums it up. My wife would have voted for almost anybody that wasn't Bush. ALMOST.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I've heard the above tales of doom and gloom. Interesting the take is the same old same old. The Dem's didn't go far left enough.

When will either party actually nominate/run a centrist candidate?

[Alexander's Horse]

In our system we have preferential voting so you don't have to like the candidate so much - you could put Kerry second last and he would still get your vote as long as you put Bush last.

That also makes party more important than personality, people vote for parties mainly though the leader does influence that choice more and more as our system becomes more "presidential" and media driven.

[-Jrabbit]

Man. And I thought the US and our "electoral college" was a screwed up system...

[MrFun]

Re: John Kerry was the wrong choice... he sucks!

Originally posted by Sava

Kerry's a bore just like Gore. He's a stiff who lacks charisma. The Bush smear machine is making mincemeat of him.

It's amazing how quickly some people lose memory of recent, historical events.

Have you forgotten how nearly successful and widely popular Gore's campaign was in 2000? A loser or a bore does not approach anywhere near that kind of success IMO.

[DinoDoc]

Re: Re: John Kerry was the wrong choice... he sucks!

Originally posted by MrFun
Have you forgotten how nearly successful and widely popular Gore's campaign was in 2000?

Close only counts in horse shoes, grenades, & Tactical nuclear weapons.