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  • Originally posted by Ned
    What this shows is that the left is feeling very vulnerable on this issue.
    Actually it shows even more than that:

    1.) al-Qaida assigns importance to Iraq to the point of redefining its strategy. There are no Spanish troops in their holy land...just secular Iraq...Hmmm

    2.) al-Qaida is becoming more political in its attacks...and picked a situation where they could possibly effect a leftist change...Hmmm

    3.) al-Qaida struck in Europe...Where the fracture in the Western approach to terrorism is the greatest...Hmmm

    The left may not be willing to admit it, but al-Qaida desperately wants them to assume governmental control. The conservative approach is just to hard for them to combat.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • You know Giancarlo, what I find simply amazing
      who do you think you are? bill oreilly? sean hannity?
      "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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      • Originally posted by PLATO
        The conservative approach is just to hard for them to combat.
        Apparently not
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        • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


          Apparently not
          Actually...a very good point.
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • Aren't we overlooking the real tragedy here?

            I mean these guys detonated ten bombs in the middle of Madrid and didn't manage to put a scratch on either of the Beckhams.

            Only feebs vote.

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            • Originally posted by Ned


              You know Giancarlo, what I find simply amazing is the denial by the left that the attacks, their association with al Qaeda and Spain's involvement in Iraq did not influence the election. They clearly did given the pre-attack polls showing the PP way ahead.
              Again, Georgia 2002. Polls can get it wrong.

              What this shows is that the left is feeling very vulnerable on this issue.
              No Ned, what the left is pissed off about is that your underlying assumption is that somehow the left is ok with terrorism.

              **** you.

              I live in New York - which actually got attacked. My wife lost two friends. My best friend's brother-in-law went active with the fire dept. the week after 9/11 to a fire house that lost alot of personnel in the attacks. You think I, or any liberal New Yorker, in any way wants to give terrorism a pass? Oh, but voting to the left is somehow equivalent to appeasing terrorists? Sorry, getting a hard-on over bombing people who had nothing to do with the attacks isn't being "tough on terror". The left wants to see this **** end and the right for all their bluster has done nothing.

              So enough of this bull**** appeasement meme. In fact, it happened on Aznar's watch so it might just be that his failure tipped the election.

              So **** you, **** Fez, and **** all the rest of you who think that liberals are all terrorist appeasers. It's liberals that got attacked. You ****ing hillbillies in the south don't have to worry: the terrorists don't even consider you worth blowing up.

              So again, **** you.
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              • Hahahaha.. I pissed somebody off.. you think you used the four letter F word enough in that post? My friend was almost killed in the Madrid attacks. I just found out he lost his leg. So don't you dare ****ing minimize me.

                I'm not one of those hillbillies. I happen to be European.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • You ****ing hillbillies in the south don't have to worry

                  I love you too.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • Panties in a bunch?
                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


                      who do you think you are? bill oreilly? sean hannity?
                      Why, do they say that too?
                      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                      • The Templar, I think the left is blinded by their hatred of Bush so much that they will even cut the legs out from the war on terror if somehow that gets Bush out of office.

                        This al Qaeda attack was specifically directed at Spain to fracture the Coalition and to drive Spain out of Iraq.

                        The attack succeeded.

                        The left will not accept this today even though we saw them bearing signs just last week to the effect that "the bombs fell in Iraq and landed in Spain." There were no doubts then that the left knew why al Qaeda attacked Spain. None at all.

                        No the new PM says that he is going to withdraw Spanish troops and somehow the left refused to accept that al Qaeda won. Spain is defeated. Europe is weakened. Ditto the coalition. Iraq has been placed in peril and the war on terror has taken a major step backwards.

                        These are the facts. The results in Spain were a major blow to the war on terror.
                        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                        • Why, do they say that too?
                          all the time, when the wolves try to hide under sheep skin and try to be human, and they feign shock.
                          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                          • Originally posted by Ned
                            The Templar, I think the left is blinded by their hatred of Bush so much that they will even cut the legs out from the war on terror if somehow that gets Bush out of office.

                            This al Qaeda attack was specifically directed at Spain to fracture the Coalition and to drive Spain out of Iraq.

                            The attack succeeded.

                            The left will not accept this today even though we saw them bearing signs just last week to the effect that "the bombs fell in Iraq and landed in Spain." There were no doubts then that the left knew why al Qaeda attacked Spain. None at all.

                            No the new PM says that he is going to withdraw Spanish troops and somehow the left refused to accept that al Qaeda won. Spain is defeated. Europe is weakened. Ditto the coalition. Iraq has been placed in peril and the war on terror has taken a major step backwards.

                            These are the facts. The results in Spain were a major blow to the war on terror.
                            No, the Spanish people won. Anzar tried to make Iraq a non-issue int he election, and almost succeeded. Al-Queada made it an issue.

                            Now seeing how once 90% of Spaniards rejected the Iraq war, and ANzar went ahead anyways like a pompous politician, the Spanish people won, and the people of the world enjoyed a victory. I hope Burlesconi, Blair, and Bush are shaknig in their boots.
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                            • Originally posted by Giancarlo
                              Hahahaha.. I pissed somebody off.. you think you used the four letter F word enough in that post? My friend was almost killed in the Madrid attacks. I just found out he lost his leg. So don't you dare ****ing minimize me.

                              I'm not one of those hillbillies. I happen to be European.
                              I thought you were leaving.

                              Too bad Anzar decided war was a god thing, or your friend might still have his leg today. How many Iraqi friends of your's lost their legs this year?
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                              • Originally posted by NeOmega


                                No, the Spanish people won. Anzar tried to make Iraq a non-issue int he election, and almost succeeded. Al-Queada made it an issue.

                                Now seeing how once 90% of Spaniards rejected the Iraq war, and ANzar went ahead anyways like a pompous politician, the Spanish people won, and the people of the world enjoyed a victory. I hope Burlesconi, Blair, and Bush are shaknig in their boots.
                                This only proves my point.
                                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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