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  • #31
    No, skilled businessmen are good at managing human resources, show entrepreneurship, think fast, etc. Brilliant persons make discoveries about non-linear mathematics and write the logico-philosophicus tractatus.


    And once again you have spouted nonsense because of your utterly ridiculous defining of things. Brilliant businessmen are those who create innovations (ie, show entrepreneurship). Henry Ford, for example, was brilliant. His creation of the assemly line was a monumental change. To say he was not brilliant but merely 'astute' is just being an idiot.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Asher
      You'll find that most scientists ignore philosophers.

      The last thing a computer geek developing an incredibly intelligent AI wants to hear is the ethics behind it...
      A true scientist can't ignore philosophy, because it still deals with cognition, knowledge theory and epistemology. An engineer can ignore philosophy, but not a scientist, alas.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Oncle Boris
        Well, then my point was just that I don't like the word 'brilliant' being used to describe charismatic or astute people.
        Then why were you the first to use the word in this thread?

        When did anyone say brilliant, or in any way indicate a nobel laureate in the race? I recall Agy being a dick as per usual, and saying that 'she' was 'brainless'.
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        • #34
          Anyways, Asher doesn't have to worry. Stronach has the Quebec votes locked up because her organisers control the Conservative associations in the province. That will give her the win.

          Not that this matters. The Conservatives are not going to form the next government. They'll remain a marginal party.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Oncle Boris
            A true scientist can't ignore philosophy, because it still deals with cognition, knowledge theory and epistemology.
            A true scientist can ignore a philosopher, because all of those exist without a pesky beret following you around with "what ifs" and "whys" when there is work to be done.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              And once again you have spouted nonsense because of your utterly ridiculous defining of things. Brilliant businessmen are those who create innovations (ie, show entrepreneurship). Henry Ford, for example, was brilliant. His creation of the assemly line was a monumental change. To say he was not brilliant but merely 'astute' is just being an idiot.
              Well, in psychology classes there is this classification into kinds of 'intelligences'- and the 'scientific' one is clearly different to the practical one- I.e. the intellectual capability to manipulate theoretical concepts compared to structurational/organizational capabilities.

              I've never said you can't have both, but since being a master in one is already rare, being a genius in both is even more exceptional. Where is it that I talked about Ford? I merely said that the prime talent of a businessman is astuteness, and that of the scientist is brilliance.

              So do I know if Ford had all? No. Did he write revolutionary economic/organizational theories? If so, he might apply.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Spiffor
                Joining a party is supposed to be more of an involvement than just voting for the leader (except in the US where the primary system is so prevalent).

                You should join only if you feel conservative enough to be closely associated with their politics: they will obviously send you mail, they will probably ask you to help finance the party, they will ask you to help them in non financial ways. If you're ready to join a party, you're supposed to be ready to do it, at least the "pay your share and get mail" part.

                If not, then you'd better not join.
                That is a quaint notion of how leadership races in Canada should work, but alas it does not work that way.

                Instead, activists within the parties go out and recruit 'members' for whom memberships are often bought. On the appointed day, said members are expected to rally for the 'right' candidate by electing delegates for them.

                There is some talk of leaving this gerrymandering in the past, but it comes up time after time.
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                • #38
                  Not that this matters. The Conservatives are not going to form the next government. They'll remain a marginal party.
                  I think they can form the government. If not, they'll get around 100 seats which is pretty good for a 'marginal' party.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tingkai
                    Not that this matters. The Conservatives are not going to form the next government. They'll remain a marginal party.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by notyoueither


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                      What do you mean? Is the Mafia/Liberal Party in trouble?
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by notyoueither
                        Then why were you the first to use the word in this thread?

                        When did anyone say brilliant, or in any way indicate a nobel laureate in the race? I recall Agy being a dick as per usual, and saying that 'she' was 'brainless'.
                        No, you said she was more 'cerebral' than Agathon, which I doubt. Agathon is a respectable philosopher, while she is a successful businesswoman.

                        Look at Jean Chretien- he's not terribly brilliant, but he ruled over his party with extreme competence. Is he 'brainless'? And since we haven't heard anything serious from Belinda yet, I'll wait and see for myself if she is 'cerebral'.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          What do you mean? Is the Mafia/Liberal Party in trouble?
                          $100 million shades of trouble.
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                          • #43
                            Isn't their approval rating like 35%?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Asher

                              A true scientist can ignore a philosopher, because all of those exist without a pesky beret following you around with "what ifs" and "whys" when there is work to be done.
                              True scientists like de Broglie, Bohr, Einstein, etc, have a huge interest in philosophy.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                                No, you said she was more 'cerebral' than Agathon, which I doubt. Agathon is a respectable philosopher, while she is a successful businesswoman.
                                Agathon is a respectable philosopher? Since when? Just because he's a peon at a public university in philosophy doesn't mean he's respectable...

                                Look at Jean Chretien- he's not terribly brilliant, but he ruled over his party with extreme competence. Is he 'brainless'?
                                YES.
                                Extreme competence? Chretien? Do we live in the same country...?
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