Bush backs Gay Marraige Ban Amendment

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ramo
Gay marriage is illegal in every state but Massachussetts.

Gay marriage may not be illegal in New Mexico. Wheile there is a law that defines marriage as only between one man and one woman, there is a later law that forbids discrimination on the basis of gender. Thus, the earlier law is invalidated. We'll have to wait and see what happens there.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Wheile there is a law that defines marriage as only between one man and one woman, there is a later law that forbids discrimination on the basis of gender. Thus, the earlier law is invalidated.

Maybe not. Many courts have said that banning gay marriage isn't discrimination on gender, but on sexual orientation. Because women and men who are gay are discriminated equally.

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Ramo
Most civil union proposals (including the Vermont law) give the same rights of marriage to gay people.

Nope... since many rights of marriage are based on federal issues, such as federal taxation.

[Solly]

[Ramo]

Nope... since many rights of marriage are based on federal issues, such as federal taxation

True.

[Ben Kenobi]

What I wrote was that when it comes to protecting the rights of a minority, majorities shouldn't have a say.

So why then,

it is not a stretch to imagine a minority of Americans foisting an amendment upon the majority who oppose such a thing.

So how am I putting words into your mouth?

Is this about minority rights, or isn't it?

[Solly]

Minorities shouldn't force our countries to accept anything.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
OK so it's not just semantics. Do some states allow gay civil unions but not gay marriages?

Or would a civil union give the same rights as a marriage?

in terms of rights and legal protections, civil unions are the same as marriage... civil unions are mostly just a compromise presented to give gays their rights and not call it marriage.

But the gay-haters aren't concerned about compromise, equality, rights, justice, or tolerance. They want to punish gays. If there's a hell, the gay haters and bigots are all going to go there. These people are like terrorists, they hate gays more than they love God. Islamic terrorists hate America more than they love Allah. It's the same sickening mentality.

[rev]

Ugh. I don't see what the problem with gay marriage is. No court is going to make your church pastor perform homosexual marriages -- that's the other side of the "seperation of church and state".

[Sava]

Originally posted by rev
Ugh. I don't see what the problem with gay marriage is. No court is going to make your church pastor perform homosexual marriages -- that's the other side of the "seperation of church and state".

that's a good point, I was thinking that banning gay marriage might be a violation of the 1st Amendment as well as the 14th...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

The governments only involvement in marriage is the legal side of things... which the 14th Amendment takes care of... but marriage is basically a religious institution. I mean, weddings are primarily in churches, a priest usually performs the service. An amendment banning gay marriage would violate that part of the first amendment because the law is interfering with religious establishments.

[Solly]

This is going to be fun. A lot of annulled marriages in San Fran I reckon Let's see them cry.

[Sava]

don't worry Bodd's social change (progress) is inevitable... plus, that bird ain't gonna fly

[Potassium]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Why should I disappoint my DL fans?

That's funny. The last time I checked, Ixnay and I were two different people.

Oh noes! He forgot to log out of my account! LOL DL LET'S DANCE HURR

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
This is going to be fun. A lot of annulled marriages in San Fran I reckon Let's see them cry.

You're all heart, widdle Boddy-Woddy.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Potassium
LOL DL LET'S DANCE HURR

Beat you to it!