Bush backs Gay Marraige Ban Amendment

[chequita guevara]

BK, have you considered, for a moment, that your religious is complete and utter sh!t. I mean, if it can't deal with science and reality, maybe you should try a different one, that isn't quite so F*CKING STUPID!!!!!!

[Ben Kenobi]

The judges are correctly interpretting the law... they are doing their jobs.

When they agree with you?

okay, name the judges in question

You started this. Name the judges you are defending.

this is an absolute BAM

So is your opening post on this issue.

[Ben Kenobi]

No they can't.

Oooh.

Do you challenge me for source?

the Constitutions at issue are state constitutions, and apparently, several of them do say you cannot keep gays from marying each other.

And 38 of them say you can restrict marriage to one man and one woman.

So your point?

your religious is complete and utter sh!t. I mean, if it can't deal with science and reality, maybe you should try a different one, that isn't quite so F*CKING STUPID!!!!!!

[Ming]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
BK, have you considered, for a moment, that your religious is complete and utter sh!t. I mean, if it can't deal with science and reality, maybe you should try a different one, that isn't quite so F*CKING STUPID!!!!!!

HEY.. tone it down.. EVERYBODY. Discuss the issues, don't throw around insults.

And Che... using silly games to get around the censor is against he rules... don't do so again.

[rah]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
It's a painless bone to throw because he knows it would never get past the hurdles in place to prevent people from putting things into the Constitution everytime they felt like it. Moderates already knew about his feelings on the matter.

Yeah, I already know how he feels but when he spouts stupid things like this,......it just makes it harder.

Like my wife used to vote Repub most of the time, but their continued anti-abortion no-choice stand gets in the way, and now even though she agrees more with most things, this single item has her voting the other party, despite her dissagreement with many of their issues. Moderates like us need to see some wiggle room.
She would never think of having an abortion, but she firmly believes that it should be her choice.

[Sava]

She would never think of having an abortion, but she firmly believes that it should be her choice.

that's how it should be

Che, don't bother wasting any more of 'Poly's storage space trying to debate BK... he has no understanding or respect for the US Constitution, the federal government, or the seperation of powers. His brand of extremism isn't supported by the public, so we have little to worry about. Plus, the founding fathers are really smart. In order to prevent such extremism from sliming it's way into the US constitution, they made it really hard to pass an amendment.

Granted, they got prohibition into the Constitution, but most of America doesn't hate gays to that extreme. Tolerance, justice, and equality will prevail.

Just nod your head at BK and let him have his rants.

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by rah

Yeah, I already know how he feels but when he spouts stupid things like this,......it just makes it harder.

Like my wife used to vote Repub most of the time, but their continued anti-abortion no-choice stand gets in the way, and now even though she agrees more with most things, this single item has her voting the other party, despite her dissagreement with many of their issues. Moderates like us need to see some wiggle room.
She would never think of having an abortion, but she firmly believes that it should be her choice.

The Problem in America seems to be the same as in Germany.

There are only two major parties who have the chance to win the Election.
If you don´t like some issues one Party has, you have to vote for the other party if you want your vote to count (as minor parties don´t have the slightest chance).
(O.K. in germany we have, aside from the 2 major Parties also 2-3 intermediate Parties who have a chance to participate in the government)

Maybe that´s something fundamentally wrong, that just two parties have so much power.

[rah]

I would say that a two part system at least helps exclude some of the fringe loons, but it doesn't.

[Ben Kenobi]

Edit:

CHECK FACTS.

[Ramo]

Kerry voted against DOMA (which was a ballsy thing for him to do since he was fending off a challenger for his seat).

[Agathon]

Geez.... make the US an international laughingstock..... nice one Curious George.

[Ramo]

So how's Vancouver?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Adding something to the Constitution makes it constitutional.

I thought that too. Adding a Constitutional Amendment by definition can't be unconstitutional.

Ming once said you guys were using the religous right. I think its rather obvious they are using you. It's not just in this case, either.

No, this shows we are obviously using them. It'll never get passed - it's just a bone to throw to them so they'll vote for Bush while ignoring that nothing they really wanted has gone through.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

It would be a great shame if gay marriages were stopped- this is a real "winds of change" moment. Ultimately-what harm will it do?

Upset a few blowhards? No worries.

[Guynemer]

Why even debate Ben on this? We know it won't do any good, he knows it won't do any good; it just amounts to everyone waving their ****** at one another. Perhaps a poor choice of expression given the topic, but it's apt nonetheless.



DD--I think you're only half-right about the prospects for this amendment. There is no way on Earth it gets passed--in an election year. But if Bush manages to win in November, I could see there being a real effort to pass the amendment before '08.