Infanticide

[OzzyKP]

Well by whatever name you call it, its in the same area as "every sperm is sacred".

[Spiffor]

Dumb, extremistic, and loathable. I think we have found an agreement here

[joncha]

Go back to the original post, Ozzy. I was comparing his "logical" extension of the pro-choice argument to my "logical" extension of the anti-choice argument.

jon.

[Urban Ranger]

Looks at the source of the news.

[Space05us]

While Im all for abortion if the mother and father want it I dont see any logic behind killing an already born child. Even if they are ****ed for life there are ways of taking care of them and people who are willing to even if the parents dont want to.

[Ben Kenobi]

What has happened to the fetus in the time it takes to pass down the birth canal and into the world which changes its moral status?

Well jon, what has changed?

[joncha]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Well jon, what has changed?

I think Emperor Fabulous already answered that:

Are you kidding me? It's nothing of the like. If you're going to go ahead and have the baby, ****ing have it. Don't kill it after the fact.

[Ben Kenobi]

So nothing changes.

Glad we could come to agreement.

[joncha]

Note the term "baby." A foetus is not a baby. Just as a woman is not an incubator.

jon.

[Ben Kenobi]

A foetus is not a baby

Why not? The child is her offspring, regardless of age.

[Sava]

geez... and liberals get branded as "bleeding hearts"... it's a cruel world people... yes, we have technology and such now, but civil societies have practiced infanticide for thousands of years... I think infanticide is wrong. But it's not the OMFG OMFG evil that people complain about.

And this does not in any way equate with late-term abortion. There's a line between when a baby is a baby and when it is a fetus: when it comes out of the mother. As long as it's in the mother, it's her decision to have the pregnancy or not.

To address the point "how did the baby change from the birth canal to the state being born"... good question. It didn't. But that's the line that is drawn. In the mother = fetus, outside the mother = infant/baby/etc. But this point is moot. The number of abortions done in the 9th month is SOOOOOOO INSIGNIFICANT, I could probably count the cases on my ****ing hand. But the right wants to go on and on about some dopey emotional argument... they want to start the slippery slope so they can effectively take control over a woman's right to her body. We should not give one ****ing inch to these authoritarian chauvinists that wish to usurp a woman's control over her own body.

[Verto]

But it's not the OMFG OMFG evil that people complain about.

Since your opinion is overwhelmingly more superior and eminent.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Verto
Since your opinion is overwhelmingly more superior and eminent.

it's not about my opinion on the legitimacy of a human's right to live... I don't want abortions to occur any more than any other moral person, but the WRONG WAY to go about reducing the number of abortions is exactly the path all the nazi pro-life ****ers want to take.

It's a shame all these ****ing hypocritical conservatives CRY about the BIG BAD government when the government wants to tax the rich to provide health care (a human right). OOOOHHH THE BIG BAD GOVERNEMNT IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO BE COMPASSIONATE OMFGOFMGOMFG...

but the second there's a chance to CONTROL women... conservatives flip-flop and say... OMFGOMFGOMFOGM ABORTION IS EVIL WE MUST TAKE CONTROL OVER THEIR BODIES!!!!

first it's abortion... then it's sex in general... soon people will be arrested if they have sex out of wedlock... ITS ****ING MEDIEVAL, and as long as there is a breath in my body I will oppose (with force if necessary) the move of ANYONE to USURP anyone's rights.

[MRT144]

ozzy, you displaying the logical fallacy of "either one or the other"

[Verto]

Aren't we talking about killing newborns because of 'defects'?