Do rightwingers despise women?

[Ben Kenobi]

I come of as "granola", or so my mom says. So, everyone thinks I am some leftist hippie.

Same here. Unless you catch me in my suit on Sundays, I dress more like a hippy than a businessman.

[Cruddy]

Re: Do rightwingers despise women?

Originally posted by Tripledoc
I have noted here, and in real life, that generally rightwingers have a problem with women...

This is a sweeping generalisation that encourages stereotypes. Forget it, it's a blind alley.

Originally posted by Tripledoc
... do you think that feminism is a good cause?

Yes, when balanced out with the needs of men - how about equality of sexes being a better cause?

Originally posted by Tripledoc
I have trouble in understanding the anti-feminist stance of the right. Please explain.

In general, CERTAIN members of the right feel a need to be identified with "traditional" values, ie women for breeding, cooking and cleaning only.

Try that line in my neighbourhood and you'll be looking for your teeth.

[Q Classic]

oh, and you had no idea huh? MrFun

I freak ppl out all the time. I come of as "granola", or so my mom says. So, everyone thinks I am some leftist hippie. Just the other month a friend for about 4 years learned that I was a Republican and she about lost it. She went on a tirade about "how can YOU be a repub"? I just smiled and told her I don't talk about politics much, and I am not about to with someone acting like her... She added that she didn't normally get along with republicans, only to have husband tell her that he was one!!!

It was like everyone came out of the closet at once!

goddamn i usually don't get along with anybody who is a party member all youse are like those red party members or the national socialist party members or the ingsoc party members rabid fools the lot of yuo!!!!!!!!!111111111

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Japher
Perhapse it is the left wingers that loathe women since most gay men are lefties

I don't know. However it just seems to me that anti-abortionists do not have very much concern for the safety of women.

If I would make a psychological case, then maybe it is that conservative men in some ways subliminally think themselves more important to the reproductive process than they really are. However we must accept that the initial 'investment' a man makes in the reproductive process is indefinately smaller than what the woman invests over a long time afterwards. Should the woman then not have the 'majority vote' in deciding what the outcome of this investment should be. Otherwise it seems to me that conservative men are self-contradictory in their support of Capitalism.

[Q Classic]

it seems to me that leftists, who think that empowering women means that they should do their own damn stuff instead of just being nice to them care little for their common man and are being lazy, selfish bastards.

[Q Classic]

i still don't like that vietnamese flag.

[Japher]

However it just seems to me that anti-abortionists do not have very much concern for the safety of women.

What about the children that are women? At least 50% of aborted pregnancies would of been women

Personally, I am not anti-abortion. Yet, if you want to attack republicans merely for abortion issues you WILL find Repubs on both sides of the fence (same for dems). Saying that the mans donation to the creation of child is significantly less is than that of the womans is a poor argument. If we are going to measure worth of a vote, or who gets the "majority vote", based on the amount of time one puts into something than we should count all votes accordingly.... Those who pay less in taxes will have their vote weighted accordingly on bond measures.

Conservative men, wow you really are targeting a group, are not self-contradictory in their support of Capitalism because capitalism has nothing to do with abortions! Besides, you still can't assign the worth of a contribution in such away. The minute you start assigning value and "ownership" to a child you advocate slavery.

Stupid troll.

[Q Classic]

why don't we ask exterminators about what to do with babies and abortions? babies are parasites, after all, feeding off the host that is the poor unwilling woman, because we all know that no empowered woman would really ever want to subject herself to such a debilitating condition.

[Q Classic]

in fact, all sex is rape. it's the unwilling intrusion by a male appendage into the region that is the woman's sacred holy place that is beyond reproach! even when her mouth says yes, her eyes say no!

[Japher]

I have no opinion on the Vietnamese flag.

[Q Classic]

i still don't like it.

[Tripledoc]

When I said 'majority vote' I meant as in a stock company. The one who made the largests investment gets to decide.

I am not trying to boil the issue into humans acting as robots. However I think a rational case, based on the ideology of Capitalism, can be made for taking a pro-choice stance. Anyway I think there is a contradiction.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by VJ
If we only count "independent countries", then it would be Finland -- > 1917 (Somehow, I can't recall any elections held in USSR).

Yes, we are only counting independent countries. Non-independent countries are not countries, they are provinces. And if we were counting provinces, then the American West would be the first place women got the vote, as stated in BK's post to which I was originally responding.

The fact you can't recall any elections held in the USSR (which didn't exist until the 1920s) doesn't mean they didn't take place. I can't recall you being born, but I am sure it happened since you are pestering me.

Finnish independence was recognized in Dec (or late Novermber) 1917, one month after the Soviets abolished the Provisional government. Given that Finland was part of that revolution, it's a quibble to argue which country granted women the right to vote first, as at the time women were granted the right to vote, Finland was still technically part of Russia.

[Japher]

When I said 'majority vote' I meant as in a stock company

The child would then be like an IPO... Guess what, when you invest in an IPO you can't sell for 2 years, no matter how much you invested.

Having a child is a choice, not an accident... ever... unless it's a crime. It is a choice by two people. We just want people to take responsibility for their actions, their choices... that is very capitalistic.

[Tripledoc]

IPO means Initial Public Offering. A child is not offered to the public. A child is the result of a consentual agreement between two private parties in which the woman has invested the most.

The state then actually oversteps on two levels. Firstly it intrudes on the family unit. Then it intrudes on the woman.