Do rightwingers despise women?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Tripledoc


I am cureently laughing out loud at the conservatives stupidity.

banter != stupidity, moron

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Berzerker
As Jefferson said, the trend is for government to grow and liberty to give way.

I'll grant you that point if you agree that corporations are the same thing as governments or vice versa.

Right now, our best defense against tyranny of corporations is to shore up our neutered governments.

[Dis]

yes sadly, the founding fathers could not envision such a things as corporations as we have them today.

[Ben Kenobi]

Generally the more conservative the country the later universal suffrage was introduced. Switzerland is the obvious example.

That explains why the Western states in the US granted suffrage to women, before the East Coast.




As for women controlling their own bodies, we do not dispute that, but rather, we dispute that their child is part of their own body.

[Berzerker]

I think that the assaertion that 'abstinence has been ignored' will sound absurd to catholics.

We were talking about US policy, true? The Pope and the US government are not the same thing. Public schools don't pay much attention to abstinance and Bush and many of his supporters apparently want to change that.

Regarding out of wedlock birth rates this is not in itself a problem. many people are choosing out of their own free will to have children out of wedlock. Also i suspect many married women have abortions.

You don't think it's a problem? The greatest determinant for poverty is out of wedlock births, and in this society, that is an incentive for more abortions.

You are not responsible either way. However I just thought it approriate to lay bare the, to me evident, contradiction in the Bush policy of actively preventing abortions.

If it isn't my responsibility, why are you effectively accusing me of killing 3rd world women? And you still haven't shown that Bush is actively preventing abortions anywhere.

It invalidates Bush's claim to be the defender of freedom on so many levels.

He's either a liar or ignorant, but so what? Liberals claim to believe in freedom and they're full of it too.

Firstly the freedom of women is taken away.

Killing human beings is not a freedom.

Secondly the freedom of organisations to push the abortion issue is taken away.

Why? Because Bush might have reduced the increase in family planning? Sheesh! If you don't get my money via government to do whatever it is you want, am I taking away your freedom? You seem to think freedom means we get, no, need to steal ("legally") from each other and a cessation of that stealing means we've lost our freedom.

Lastly the freedom of the American taxpayer is taken away, when any new administration can levy taxes to pay for questionable policy aims.

Yeah, Mr Champion of the American taxpayer wants us to pay for abortions all over the world and if we refuse we must despise women.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why are you people feeling the troll? Have you learned nothing?

There are individuals who get through (a better name would be a glass seive), but by and large, the higher one goes, the less women there are.

That is because the gender barrier has only recently been broken. Naturally it would take time for women to reach the higher levels, as the most senior workers are still male.

[Q Classic]

i don't like the vietnamese flag.

then again, i never really liked the south vietnamese flag, either. there are plenty of countries whose flags i don't much care for. like libya.

oh, something about women? i dunno, there seem to be plenty of conservatives at the school who are more gentlemanly than the liberals.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Why are you people feeling the troll? Have you learned nothing?

There are individuals who get through (a better name would be a glass seive), but by and large, the higher one goes, the less women there are.

That is because the gender barrier has only recently been broken. Naturally it would take time for women to reach the higher levels, as the most senior workers are still male.

True. My mother was in the first Yale graduating class with women(1973). She and her classmates are all roughly 50 years old. Most CEOs are older than that.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
As for women controlling their own bodies, we do not dispute that, but rather, we dispute that their child is part of their own body.

I would be interested to know if you could back that up.
Take an example of a woman who is depressed, probably becasue of the stupidity of comservative men, and she decides to commit suicide. Unknowingly she is also pregnant. She jumps off a bridge and she, and the child, is killed.

This to me means that if the pregnant woman dies, usually the child dies too. This means that the proposition that embryos are not part if the woman's body rests on very shaky ground. It is the female body which preserves and feeds the new life inside her. Without the comfort of the womb the new life would not survive.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


That explains why the Western states in the US granted suffrage to women, before the East Coast.




As for women controlling their own bodies, we do not dispute that, but rather, we dispute that their child is part of their own body.

Well, the western states in the United States had ulterior motives, but still, you have a good point.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
oh, something about women? i dunno, there seem to be plenty of conservatives at the school who are more gentlemanly than the liberals.

Yes, but does a 'gentlemanly behavior' towards women not take it for granted that women are weak? That they can't take care of themselves. Is this 'gentlemanly behavior' then not very arrogant and superior. it is based on a feeling that men should distance themselves from women.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Public schools don't pay much attention to abstinance and Bush and many of his supporters apparently want to change that.

So a greater attention to abstinence (does the fundamentalists want to turn the US into a monestary?) will be the policy at the expense of more useful sexual education? At the same time saying that masturbation is a viable alternative to sexual intercourse is not considered in accordance with the political mainstream. I remember a US general surgeon who was fired because of saying precisely that. Moreover teaching abstinence at the expense of contraception will surely mean a spread in sexual diseases. Finally this new policy will surely hit randomly. I can imagine that in more resourceful families the parents will explain how the children should protect themselves.

[RGBVideo]

The problem is not right-wingers, but rather, evil people or ill-informed people. Such people only form about 98% of the political right.

1/10.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
That explains why the Western states in the US granted suffrage to women, before the East Coast.

What part of the word generally don't you understand? First country in the world to extend the right to vote to women was Soviet Russia, IIRC.

Anyway, the western states gave women the right to vote in order to achive statehood earlier than they normally would have, as statehood was granted to territories with a certain number of voters. It had nothing to do with thinking women were equal.

[RGBVideo]

What part of the word generally don't you understand? First country in the world to extend the right to vote to women was Soviet Russia, IIRC.

Finland. 1906.