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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sava
    I thank god every day that I don't live in that dopey region...

    it's ironic that so called "conservatives" who cry about the powerful government and their terrible influence are the very ones USING GOVERNMENT to push their stupid agendas...
    They are just demonstrating how dangerous government can be.
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    • #62
      As a conservative fundamentalist I decry the crippling effect that liberalism has had on the public schools over the last 30 years but....this narrow minded attempt to roll back the clock is useless.

      The real answer to this problem is getting the right to use our tax dollars to educate our children in the schools of our choice.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dissident
        I thought we were done with all this bull****. I hate americans sometimes
        "Sometimes"?
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


          Would the HS students be willing to learn?
          That is their problem. Students in a catholic school might not be willing to learn religion either- does that mean the word God should be substituted for "non-corporeal entity"?
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          • #65
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

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            • #66
              That is their problem. Students in a catholic school might not be willing to learn religion either
              Private and public school systems. Can the public school system refuse to teach someone? The private school could just ask the student to leave.
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              • #67
                A public school can ask a student to leave if they are sufficiently disruptive. No disruption, no expulsion, I wouldn't think. They might fail, though.

                Ah, the hazards of being a fundamentalist neanderthal.

                Ah, the hazards of having a majority of fundamentalist neanderthals in your state...

                But by all means, Ben, stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes and pretend the pink unicorn on the other side of the moon made the earth in 6 days.

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                • #68
                  But by all means, Ben, stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes and pretend the pink unicorn on the other side of the moon made the earth in 6 days.
                  Not just the Earth, plenty of other stuff too. Don't forget that!

                  Actually, I don't believe in 6 'creation-days' being 24 hour periods, but I guess that would spoil your rant, eh?
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                  • #69
                    But you admit it's a pink unicorn! Woohoo!



                    Whatever. Believe as you wish. I, for one, am happy your vote counts in Canada and not the US. We really don't need any more religious conservatives.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                      Private and public school systems. Can the public school system refuse to teach someone? The private school could just ask the student to leave.
                      And public schools also have to give students information they need to succeed and become full rounded citizens, not whatever fairy tales a private org wants to push- hence, evolution.
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                      • #71
                        Carter blasts Georgia evolution proposal

                        By MARY MACDONALD
                        Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer

                        Former President Jimmy Carter said Friday he is embarrassed by the proposal to remove the term evolution from Georgia's biology curriculum. "As a Christian, a trained engineer and scientist, and a professor at Emory University, I am embarrassed by Superintendent Kathy Cox's attempt to censor and distort the education of Georgia's students," Carter said in a statement.

                        Her recommendation that the word "evolution" be removed from the standards "will adversely affect the teaching of science and leave our high school graduates with a serious handicap as they enter college or private life where freedom of speech will be permitted."

                        "Nationwide ridicule of Georgia's public school system will be inevitable if this proposal is adopted, and additional and undeserved discredit will be brought on our excellent universities as our state's reputation is damaged," Carter wrote.

                        Carter, a Baptist, said that existing references to evolution in Georgia's curriculum have done nothing to damage religious faith in the state.

                        State school Superintendent Kathy Cox said Thursday that the change, which would strike the word "evolution" from Georgia's science curriculum, is only a suggestion and far from becoming official policy.

                        Cox's proposal for new middle and high school science standards would ban references to "evolution" and replace it with the term "biological changes over time." She says the world "evolution" is a "buzzword that causes a lot of negative reaction."

                        The proposal is part of more than 800 pages of revisions to Georgia's curriculum that were posted Jan. 12 on the Department of Education Web site for educators and the public to consider.

                        Cox spokesman Kirk Englehardt said the superintendent was reviewing Carter's statement Friday morning and did not have an immediate response.

                        In an interview Thursday afternoon, Gov. Sonny Perdue didn't want to give his opinion on the evolution debate. But as he has done throughout his first year, he supported Cox and her decisions.

                        "I trust the superintendent and the [state] Board of Education. We appointed great people to the board," Perdue said. "And the superintendent is perfectly capable of making those kind of curriculum decisions. I don't think that's an issue that the people of Georgia expect the governor to get down into."

                        In an interview shortly after his November 2002 victory, Perdue said has "no problem" with children being exposed to creationism, evolution and other theories, but said the decision should rest with the local school districts.
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                        • #72
                          And public schools also have to give students information they need to succeed and become full rounded citizens,
                          So why do students need to learn about evolution in order to become 'full rounded citizens?' I would think things like civics, should become that much more important given your criteria.
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                          • #73
                            To understand what it means to be human, in the 21st century.

                            Read "The Third Chimpanzee" by Jared Diamond.

                            As far as Cox wanting to have alternatives to evolution debated in biology, I'm all for it.

                            As long as we get to debate evolution on Sundays, at Ms. Cox's church.

                            Until then, I have a deal:

                            Keep your babble the hell out of our kids schools, and we'll keep our monkeys out of your temple.
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                            • #74
                              Anyone who disputes evolution is a MORON. Georgia is full of MORONS. End of story.

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                              • #75
                                I try to avoid Georgia when at all possible.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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