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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
That would be cruel and unusual punishment.
That would be cruel and unusual punishment.
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Not really. IIRC, It's actually used in several states as a condition for the parole of people convicted of sex crimes.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I support chemical castration for repeated sex offenders...Comment
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You are misrepresenting my point. I did not say that. I said rehab attempts had poor results. Perhaps, because people don't change much. You are jumping further down the track.Originally posted by Ramo
Was responding to GP's idea that if he's going to change, it wasn't going to be from an attempt at rehabilition.
I mostly just want to punish the ****er.Comment
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"But I do think that there is a chance, he will change his ways. Won't have anything to do with reform or rehabilitation or interventions.""Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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And why exactly do you say that rehabilitation must have poor results? Particularly for a 15 year old kid?
I think I've changed a lot in the 4 years since I was 15.Perhaps, because people don't change much.
Because you genuinely believe that putting the kid through a lot of **** for the rest of his life will genuinely make society better off, or out of revenge for his acts?I mostly just want to punish the ****er.Last edited by Ramo; January 26, 2004, 01:12."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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That does not mean rehab doesn't work, it's just the way them Texans do it doesn't.Originally posted by TCO
rehabilitation is a miserable failure. Ask your texas counsel, lefty.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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Right."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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We could shoot him and charge the family for the bullet as the Chinese government does.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
That does not mean rehab doesn't work, it's just the way them Texans do it doesn't.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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not to change him, but to punish him. If he decides to change fine. But for now, he earned a punishment.Originally posted by Ramo
And why exactly do you say that rehabilitation must have poor results? Particularly for a 15 year old kid?
I think I've changed a lot in the 4 years since I was 15.
Because you genuinely believe that putting the kid through a lot of **** for the rest of his life will genuinely make society better off, or out of revenge for his acts?Comment
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We could shoot him and charge the family for the bullet as the Chinese government does.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
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What he did was bad. That doesn't nessecitate trying to do something cruel to him.Originally posted by Tiamat
As opposed to raping your mother
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I still have yet to see proof of this. I still think it's some perverted publicity stunt.Comment
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Is there any particular methodology to your desire to punish, or is it just a base, retributive urge?not to change him, but to punish him. If he decides to change fine. But for now, he earned a punishment."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I can just see this conversation when he gets back to juvie hall:
Inmate: "You motherf**cker!"
Kid: "Yes....and your point is?"To La Fayette, as fine a gentleman as ever trod the Halls of Apolyton
From what I understand of that Civ game of yours, it's all about launching one's own spaceship before the others do. So this is no big news after all: my father just beat you all to the stars once more. - Philippe BaiseComment
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"methodology" is not the right term here. Also, you continue to try to put in loaded emotional terms. I let you get away with it before with "revenge".Originally posted by Ramo
Is there any particular methodology to your desire to punish, or is it just a base, retributive urge?Comment
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