boy, 15, rapes his mother

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
This assault is clearly all Eminem's fault.

His mom is Kim Basinger, which somehow lessens the repulsion.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Neither rape, incest nor assault (the three crimes commited here) are capital crimes today, so no, the kid does not "deserve" death.

Is and should are different inquiries.

So which of those do you think should be capital offenses?

[TCO]

From an intellectual sense, I don't think that rape should be a capital offense. Still I want to say kill him ot piss of the effete Euro types who never get to fry their criminals.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova

The only way I can see this happening is if the kid wanted revenge for being sexually abused (not nescesarily by same mother).

I was thinking the same thing. A lot of times inept or bad parents can put their children into situations where they are abused, and then compound their error by not noticing, listening or believing their children after the fact. I have a good friend whose mother still goes back and forth. Sometimes she apologizes for leaving her daughter in the hands of her father who raped her repeatedly when she was really young (and did the same thing to her older sister for many years). Other times her mother denies that anything happened at all, and tells her daughter she is crazy and making things up to get attention.

I know this girl's history pretty well, and it should have been obvious to anyone who wasn't really invested in denying it that she had been abused. She acted out at such a young age (five years old), repeatedly. Anyway, if this kid's mother were something like this I can see how the anger would make such a violent act more likely, and perhaps more appropriate than we'd like to admit. And of course if his mom did abuse him directly, then we are simply talking an eye for an eye.

Of course he simply might be mad as a hatter, or was so wasted on drugs that his judgement ceased to exist.

[Sikander]

Oh, and rape isn't as bad as murder, and I don't even support the death penalty for murder, though I do support it for treason and acts of illegal warfare blowing up office buildings full of people and the like.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So which of those do you think should be capital offenses?

I don't support bright line tests for what should and should not be a capital offense. I believe that rape should sometimes be a capital offense, if in the committing, the person demonstrates that there is no way he can be rehabilitated.... like in this case.

And assault as well, such as someone who tortures but does not kill (which would aggravated assault).

[Dis]

what the!

This is the first thing I see when I return to Poly. hmm

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's a sign, Diss .

[Ramo]

I don't support bright line tests for what should and should not be a capital offense. I believe that rape should sometimes be a capital offense, if in the committing, the person demonstrates that there is no way he can be rehabilitated.... like in this case.

The kid is 15. Why do you think he can never be rehabilitated? And that's what life sentences are for - if the kid can never be rehabilitated (and there's absolutely no reason to believe such a thing with what we know).

It's a sad justice system that throws away peoples' lives because it's too goddamn vindictive and lazy to try rehabilitation.

[Dis]

I'm not sure I want to know what that sign is.

Anyways is this story true? I'm having trouble believing it.

[TCO]

Originally posted by Ramo


The kid is 15. Why do you think he can never be rehabilitated? And that's what life sentences are for - if the kid can never be rehabilitated (and there's absolutely no reason to believe such a thing with what we know).

It's a sad justice system that throws away peoples' lives because it's too goddamn vindictive and lazy to try rehabilitation.

rehabilitation is a waste. But I don't think that rape should be a capital offense.

[TCO]

I mean heck the kid was on a break from reform school! rehab is not working! This is like proof of that.

[Ramo]

A waste to whom?

Prisons are by and large a waste, and execution is almost always a waste.

[Dis]

I think rape should have higher punishments than murders.

And child sexual assault should be highest on the list.

What I don't understand is why raping a child has such a small penalty. Just recently someone got sentenced to 10 months for such a crime. Well it wasn't rape, but it was inappropiate touching I think- they never give the details.

[TCO]

rehabilitation is a miserable failure. Ask your texas counsel, lefty.

And dude, the irony is you are advoacting reform and he was going to reform school!!!!