The koncerz is a pretty nasty piece of work. Nothing like being skewered with a 1.6m sword...
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What do you think is the baddest ass piece of military hardware? II
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Well, when you line up how the Western Allies treated Occupation, and how the Nazis (and NKVD) treated the Soviets...who do you think the locals are going to prefer?
Remember, between 500k and a million Soviets voluntered to serve with the German army. On the Western front we snagged thousands of Russians serving in German units, whom we had to send to certain death cause otherwise Stalin wouldn't return POWs liberated from Camps out east.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.
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Originally posted by Lonestar
Why not?
So? Your logistics were still in shambles (relative to the western allies), and we had as many people on the ground as the Red Army did. Not to mention, when we did push into Eastern Europe and the SSSR, we souldn't go around killing people for sh*ts and giggles, which might make the instances of partisan warfare go down. (assume we don't say "F--k it" and toast Moscow)
2) You had much longer supply route.
3) You didn't have as many people in the Europe in 1945 as Soviet Army had. Numbers were 3:1 in our favour, iirc.
4) The partisan warfare would not started in SU (you would never reach it btw,), but in Europe itself. Commies were quite popular in Europe after the war. For example, one of French ministers who was a commie, perhaps defense minister, not really sure and don't remember his name, said if Allies dow Soviets, then we'll fight against Allies.
Because we were the ones who smashed the Luftwaffe, not you, and we were the ones with the better planes and pilots (Except for that damn "Stormcrow"...damn flying tanks)
2) As for planes and pilots superiority, you had a chance to test Soviet pilots in Korean war.
3) This "Stormcrow" is IL-2 "Shturmovik"
Except now the mainland is secure, and we have, oh, ports and a free line across the North Atlantic.
Which we could counter with numbers, and blast apart with our air superiority.
2)Keep dreaming about air superiority
Plus, then you'd run outta oil
We weren't in shortage of oil, but we could capture Persia, Iraq and Suez to make life a bit spicy for you and Brits.Last edited by Serb; January 11, 2004, 02:46.
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Originally posted by Lonestar
Well, when you line up how the Western Allies treated Occupation, and how the Nazis (and NKVD) treated the Soviets...who do you think the locals are going to prefer?
Remember, between 500k and a million Soviets voluntered to serve with the German army. On the Western front we snagged thousands of Russians serving in German units, whom we had to send to certain death cause otherwise Stalin wouldn't return POWs liberated from Camps out east.Last edited by Serb; January 11, 2004, 02:49.
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Originally posted by Lonestar
Remember, between 500k and a million Soviets voluntered to serve with the German army. On the Western front we snagged thousands of Russians serving in German units, whom we had to send to certain death cause otherwise Stalin wouldn't return POWs liberated from Camps out east."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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Originally posted by Lonestar
True, but the 3ID, say, didn't roll into Hamburg and line up 30,000 locals and shoot them and dump them in trenches, say.
We didn't go out of our way to antagonize the locals, the Nazis did.
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Originally posted by GePap
A fusion bomb, preferably in the 20+ megaton range.
Apocalypse knights. I win"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
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Originally posted by Serb
This number is pure bullsh!t.
In the Ukraine you got a three way war between the Naizs, the Soviets, and Ukranians natiolaist bands...very nasty.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Originally posted by Spiffor
Tsk, peasant.
Apocalypse knights. I win
nice to see they fixed that smiley.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Serb
This is the worls' most powerful handgun.
Stechkin's automatic pistol. (Arnie's favorite in "Red Heat")
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