What do you think is the baddest ass piece of military hardware? II

[Vince278]

Please continue. I enjoyed reading the first thread.

[Serb]

Only few seconds passed since thread was closed, nice work Vince

Originally posted by Lonestar


Buddy, you dropped the hammer on inexperienced, ill-equipped (what with our total control of the sealanes) soldiers with the Rompin' Stompin' Russian Red Ass.

Inexperienced? They fought vs. Chinese since end of 30's. It's not their fault that they were crushed so easily, because they had no chances to win against the best army in the world, as Soviet Army was in 1945.

The Confederate Army, circa 1863 could have beat those yolkels.

Why asking Soviets for help then?

I think you guys would be in a much worse situation fighting the western Allies with no outside help then you would have been fighting Germany (and sitting out the mai phase of combat againest Japan) with our help.

Why? In Europe, in 1945, aside 1941 in Russia, the numbers were 3:1 in our favour (iirc), and we were MUCH experienced and MUCH more prepared than we were in 1941.

No one. But it is a safe assumption to make.

Why?

Well, then we throw in Canada, the Dakotas, peeps in the Sierra Nevada, Maine, etc....we could probaly scrape togather 100 million civilians who live in those areas.

If you needed 3 years to invade Europe with 2,5 millions or so troops, then I guess it would take another 50 years to re-locate those people to Europe.

More to the point, we could scraped togather several ten thousand Pershing MBTs which, if not exactly the T-34, were more than a match for late model German panzers.

Good for you, but in 1945 we already had ****loads of JS-3 which remained world's best tank long time after the war.

[Spiffor]

Nothing beats good ol' fashioned mustard gas

[Ted Striker]

THE STRIKER WARRIORS!!!!

[Spiffor]

Nothing beats good ol' fashioned mustard gas as it slowly choles the Striker Warriors to a peinful and horrible death

[Mordoch]

The Israeli Hovet anti-aircraft vehicle

[Serb]

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb


Why asking Soviets for help then?

Why not?

Why? In Europe, in 1945, aside 1941 in Russia, the numbers were 3:1 in our favour (iirc), and we were MUCH experienced and MUCH more prepared than we were in 1941.

So? Your logistics were still in shambles (relative to the western allies), and we had as many people on the ground as the Red Army did. Not to mention, when we did push into Eastern Europe and the SSSR, we souldn't go around killing people for sh*ts and giggles, which might make the instances of partisan warfare go down. (assume we don't say "F--k it" and toast Moscow)

Why?

Because we were the ones who smashed the Luftwaffe, not you, and we were the ones with the better planes and pilots (Except for that damn "Stormcrow"...damn flying tanks)

If you needed 3 years to invade Europe with 2,5 millions or so troops, then I guess it would take another 50 years to re-locate those people to Europe.

Except now the mainland is secure, and we have, oh, ports and a free line across the North Atlantic.

Good for you, but in 1945 we already had ****loads of JS-3 which remained world's best tank long time after the war.

Which we could counter with numbers, and blast apart with our air superiority. Plus, then you'd run outta oil.

[Serb]

SS-18 "Satan"

BOOMx10

[GePap]

A fusion bomb, preferably in the 20+ megaton range.





I win.

[Lonestar]

The other greatest military hardware.

The Glamdring, wielded by Gandalf the Gray, known to the elves as Mithrandir and to the Dwarves Tharkun.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lonestar
Not to mention, when we did push into Eastern Europe and the SSSR, we souldn't go around killing people for sh*ts and giggles, which might make the instances of partisan warfare go down. (assume we don't say "F--k it" and toast Moscow)

Errr, it is a mistkae to think the USUK were nice when they were conquering enemy territory back in the day. A short visit in any German city that was important at the time shows that the USUK didn't hesitate at killing throngs of Civilians to reach their military objectives.

[GePap]

Oh god, not another stupid early cold war discussion.

My two cents- the Soviets could have pushed the UK and US way back on land in Europe, but with huge losses, and our course could not win the war ude to the US nuclean monopoly and wesnetr control of the sea- thoguh they would not have an issue with oil given that they oculd take Iran and they had their own internal sources that were more than sufficient.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Errr, it is a mistkae to think the USUK were nice when they were conquering enemy territory back in the day. A short visit in any German city that was important at the time shows that the USUK didn't hesitate at killing throngs of Civilians to reach their military objectives.

True, but the 3ID, say, didn't roll into Hamburg and line up 30,000 locals and shoot them and dump them in trenches, say.

We didn't go out of our way to antagonize the locals, the Nazis did.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lonestar
We didn't go out of our way to antagonize the locals, the Nazis did.

Sure, but, you know, you can antagonize the locals even when not doing it on purpose.