Dope: Should it be legalised.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Sava
wrongo... that report had nothing to do with addiction... you should learn to read speery pie

Skywalker... do you know what a chemical addiction is? Because judging by your posts, you do not. A "chemical addiction" is when your body becomes physically dependent on a substance (i.e. withdrawl when you don't get it). Withdrawl has very specific and pronounced symptons. I know because I've been on medications before that ARE chemically dependent. Marijuana is not chemically dependent. The medical community doesn't think so, no scientist thinks so... only drug warriors who are uninformed think so. As a user of marijuana I can testify to the FACT that marijuana is NOT CHEMICALLY ADDICTIVE. I've smoked marijuana daily for a month, then stopped cold turkey... and NOTHING.

In fact, marijuana is described as "anti-addictive" meaning... IT HELPS PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM WITHDRAWL FROM OTHER SUBSTANCES.

The only problem here is we are using different definitions. It is addictive; it does not cause withdrawal syndromes (or at least I'll take your word for it).

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
I dont get this... Sava says weed is not chemically addictive based on a 1937 AMA report... a 66 year old report... sava, go back a few more years and you'll expose the truth that the negro has a small brain which is why he is less intelligent than whites.

Good one, Albert!

[Sava]

It is addictive

it is not PHYSICALLY addictive...

as I said before, it is addictive in the sense that pleasant experiences in life are wroth repeating... the "addiction" you speak of is no different than eating your favorite foods, watching your favorite TV shows or movies, drinking your favorite beverages (but less addictive than caffeine and alcohol), or coming to 'Poly.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Good one, Albert!

what's "good" about that? that speer didn't read the post and misquoted me? or the fact that he didn't read the link and said the 66 year old report was about something that it isn't...

and about what I said to orange... I wasn't pressuring him into using pot or saying he should. I was trying to alleviate any concerns he may have had about using it. If he doesn't want to.... that's fine... it's his body. But it's a good experience and I only wanted to suggest he partake in it.

[Kuciwalker]

It IS physically addictive, and I've explained twice in this thread how. It readjusts you mind at the most basic level as to accustom you to the drug. It just doesn't have withdrawal syndromes. Withdrawal and addiction are related by seperate.

(btw, Poly is probably addictive in every possible way, and worse than heroin )

[Theben]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn


I don't think so, a quarter is a quarter of an ounce, and thats 7.5 grams.

Trust me, I've bought many...

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean...

D'oh! I was thinking pounds for some reason, and messed up my conversion tables. 1 oz.=28 grams, not 2.8.

Sava,
I once bought an ounce of hydroponic, for around $150(?) That stuff was sweet. Ah, the good old days.

[Ted Striker]

stop trying to justify your pot habits people

it is addictive

and very bad for you

cut it out


or i'll kick all your azzes

[Theben]

Ted, just say, "I'd hit it," and go wander off somewhere.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Sava
Canada is much more lax about enforcement though...

True. People light up right in front of the cops and they don't give a ****. You'll even see people blazing right in front of the Parliament buildings, its kind of funny actually.

Marc Emery, Canada's "Prince of Pot" in front of Charlottetown Police HQ.

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[oedo]

staying away from drugs is always a good thing.
but I´m amazed how people, who never had ANY experience with THC can state any judgement about it. it´s much like a blind man talking about colours.

concerning me, I once started smoking pot and I spent a long and excessive time with pot. some years later I just ceased from one day to another. I had no problem with finishing. I felt no pain and I didn´t miss it at all.
and even more, I believe smoking pot was a good experience I wouldn´t want to miss.

[Kuciwalker]

oedo - I never stated about how bad it was or anything. I made statements based on what I've learned in my neurobio class, which you must admit is probably a good source of information on - you guessed it - neurobiology

[Theben]

Don't you usually haunt the civ2 forums, oedo? What brings you to the OT?

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Peter Triggs
@ Dr Strangelove. Is this an isolated opinion or is the link between cannabis and schizophrenia becoming more established? I've come across several articles about it over the past two or three years.

Yes it is pretty well known, but real medical data doesn't get anywhere near as well publicised as stuff put out by organized crime...errr, I mean, groups devoted to the legalization of drugs.

[Dr Strangelove]

If we legalise drugs won't tens of thousands of "gangstas" have to find some other way of making as much money as possible with the least amount of effort? My guess is that this would mean their shifting to other illegal endeavors like armed robbery, car theft, carjacking, prostitution and extortion.

By the way, can anyone give me the definition of "a lid"?

[oedo]

Originally posted by Theben
Don't you usually haunt the civ2 forums, oedo? What brings you to the OT?

I occasionally post here. I think it´s for about one year now. no idea what was the first OT- thread I posted in. most probably something left-wing against right-wing.

skywalker: I also learned about drugs at school. probably everybody did. the school´s intention is keeping kids away from drugs, which is generally ok. later, however, I found out that my teachers and my schoolbooks were extremely overdoing when it came to the the medical risks and the addictivness of THC. this was my experience.
see, if a teacher wants, he can even say things about oxygen which make you want to stop breathing immediately. he doesn´t even have to lie. oxygen is a poison.

I don´t want to recommend you to try pot. you won´t miss anything, if you stay away from it. but if you want to know more about it, you should at least seek some other sources, like books of people, who have experienced pot. school is only one source and it´s in the nature that school is a biased source.