this must be the most stupid town in the world if not even in the USA

[JohnT]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Hand-wringing? Certainly you'd think it a bit much if somebody forced you to buy a car or a TV?

They're being dicks...

Elect them out if you don't like it. Hell, idiots in this country have even elected socialists to office and the Republic still stands. I think a town of 200-odd people whom

Residents of this tiny south-central Kansas community have passed an ordinance

of their own free will, even if you disagree with it, doesn't even merit a mention.

[KrazyHorse]

Ummm...the last time I checked there were limits to legislative powers, most particularly to protect minorities against the dictatorship of the majority. If I don't want to buy a gun or keep one in my house, or am just too damn lazy to get one then it really shouldn't be any of your business...

Wouldn't you be a bit pissed off if your neighbours told you to buy an electric blender?

[JohnT]

My neighbors raise my taxes all the time. To pay for their school, to pay for their roads, to pay for whatever. There is no difference whatsoever in forcing people by legislative fiat to purchase a specific item, or forcing them to pay more taxes in order to provide them with "free" quantities of that item.

[KrazyHorse]

Taxation is a valid point of interest for your neighbours. What I buy with my money shouldn't be...

If I'm not raising ebola-infested monkeys in my basement then it's not any of your business...

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Governments require that people buy things all the time for public safety...

[JohnT]

If your neighbors wanted to "force" everybody to pay $50 for a gun, how is that different from your neighbors raising everybody's taxes by a like amount so the government can hand out "free" guns? Or health care? Or whatever?

[KrazyHorse]

Not for just living somewhere they don't...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by JohnT
If your neighbors wanted to tax everybody $50 to buy a gun, how is that different from your neighbors raising everybody's taxes by a like amount so the government can hand out "free" guns?

Because then I don't have to keep a gun in my house. If they want to raise taxes and hand out a free gun to whoever wants one, then I'd be okay with it...

[JohnT]

Naw, the difference is you like health care, not guns.

But seriously, this is the same principle the Left has been beating the uneducated about the head for the past 150 years: Nanny state, the government knows better in its collective wisdom than you do with your individual presumptions, crapola like that. Why do you not go for it here, when you proclaim its efficacy elsewhere?

[KrazyHorse]

I just said I have no problem with raising taxes and giving out free guns. I might disagree with it, but it doesn't piss me off like this does.

My government doesn't force me to go to the doctor...it just pays for me when I do go.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by JohnT
My neighbors raise my taxes all the time. To pay for their school, to pay for their roads, to pay for whatever.

We haven't stopped them but at least in California we've made it harder for these people looking for "freebies". Making them get a 2/3 majority instead of a simple majority sure does slow down the tax increases.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Just came back from the range, fired 150 rounds with a 9mm pistol, and another 100 rounds with a forty-year-old .38 special.

I like the .38 better -- it's got history, and I'm much more accurate with it.

Me too!

When I was with the B.I.A. (Bureau of Indian Affairs) in the 70's I carried a Model 10 Smith & Wesson and used a CCI Super Sphere rated at 1280 fsc (Hollow Point,Copper-Jacket)

I too fel it is an all around good handgun.

I however still favor what i used in the Military Police, Colt .45!

As for the response for the thread about the citizens being "forced" or "required" to stock an arsenal of any size, I am against this for if folks have a firearms cache then they may use first and ask second, for without proper training a person could be innocently killed, with a larger caliber firearm in the hands of a novice, make that a NERVOUS-NOVICE IN AN INTENSE situation they may "pull" the trigger and miss the intended intruder and kill an innocent bystander, even a child or a neighbor coming to their aid..


Just my unsolicited $0.02 worth is all


Peace

Grandpa Troll

P.S.

Is this the picture of the Town Councilman whom came up with this?

[JohnT]

"As for the response for the thread about the citizens being "forced" or "required" to stock an arsenal of any size, I am against this for if folks have a firearms cache then they may use first and ask second, for without proper training a person could be innocently killed, with a larger caliber firearm in the hands of a novice, make that a NERVOUS-NOVICE IN AN INTENSE situation they may "pull" the trigger and miss the intended intruder and kill an innocent bystander, even a child or a neighbor coming to their aid.."

The best argument against this idea yet.

[Nubclear]

"This is no different than simply raising taxes!!!"
One of the advantages of living here in Utah is that it is largely seperated from American maddness

[Ben Kenobi]

If you don't want to buy the gun, just conscientiously object. The bill provides this loophole, and does not seem to restrict who may conscientiously object.

That's what makes this requirement laughable.