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**KrazyHorse** · November 28, 2003, 22:58

a) It still requires that I get off my fat ass, which it shouldn't

b) What if I'm not a concientious objector, but simply don't want a gun at this time?

**Dinner** · November 28, 2003, 23:19

Originally posted by dv8ed
Governments require that people buy things all the time for public safety...

Like seat belts for cars or bike helmets or smog equipment for their cars or a bunch of other things.

**Dinner** · November 28, 2003, 23:21

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
"This is no different than simply raising taxes!!!"

One of the advantages of living here in Utah is that it is largely seperated from American maddness

Yeah, the Mormans who run the state dutifully vote exactly the way the head cultist tells them to vote.

**Nubclear** · November 28, 2003, 23:26

"Mormans"

And while that may be so, we aren't passing laws saying "You *MUST* own a copy of the book of Mormon or pay $100 to the church"

**Imran Siddiqui** · November 28, 2003, 23:49

Taxation is a valid point of interest for your neighbours. What I buy with my money shouldn't be...

This sentance is redundant, taxation is taking your money to buy things

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**KrazyHorse** · November 29, 2003, 00:08

Taxes aren't my money in the first place. If I owe you 100$ then that 100$ isn't mine.

**Grandpa Troll** · November 29, 2003, 00:21

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Taxes aren't my money in the first place. If I owe you 100$ then that 100$ isn't mine.

Correct-a-Mundo

Although Taxation Laws are deemed "Unacceptable" or Wrong it matters not.they are "The Law"

Try not paying them and see if Uncle Sam dont collect them or at least make every effort..and I am talking about the little guy owing a $100.00...

As for these fine folks in question...

Peace

Grandpa Troll

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**Spiffor** · November 29, 2003, 00:32

I'm sure there are some remote towns in Afghanistan that manage to be even stupider

**JohnT** · November 29, 2003, 01:01

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Taxes aren't my money in the first place.

**KrazyHorse** · November 29, 2003, 01:02

They're what I owe for services rendered.

**KrazyHorse** · November 29, 2003, 01:03

No representation without taxation.

**DinoDoc** · November 29, 2003, 01:08

Originally posted by Troll
Try not paying them and see if Uncle Sam dont collect them or at least make every effort..and I am talking about the little guy owing a $100.00...

Sounds like a loan shark.

**:) Smiley** · November 29, 2003, 01:10

Well, before we even argue about this, what % of the people there already own guns? America has more guns than people, after all.

**St Leo** · November 29, 2003, 01:42

Originally posted by JohnT
Naw, the difference is you like health care, not guns.

But seriously, this is the same principle the Left has been beating the uneducated about the head for the past 150 years: Nanny state, the government knows better in its collective wisdom than you do with your individual presumptions, crapola like that.

Nanny state my ass. National healthcare belongs to me. Private healthcare belongs to someone else. Someone else can't run anything as well as I can.

Corporations don't have constituions, bills of rights, citizenships, or even long term vision. They are oppressive dictatorships and oligarchies . You cannot expect to keep playing them against each other ad infinitum.

**JohnT** · November 29, 2003, 01:46

Corporations don't have constituions, bills of rights, citizenships, or even long term vision.

Neither do they have armies, concentration camps, or forced famines. What's your point?

They are oppressive dictatorships and oligarchies.

A dictatorship without an army is to laugh.

Get real, St. Leo.

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