[QUOTE] Originally posted by molly bloom
Does 'race' still matter orange?
Oh c'mon now...the reason for that is obviously economics. What population of Australia is native? I'll tell you...about 1%. Furthermore, Aboriginies are some of the poorest people on this planet. It would be financial suicide to try to appeal to native Australians as a market because you wouldn't make a dime of it back. It has nothing to do with 'racism'. It's that people would prefer not to waste money. If there were a greater number of Aboriginies, and they had more economic power, you'd see more of them in advertisements, and you'd certainly see more people trying to appeal to them as a market. For now, Australian ad agencies will stick to advertising to the overwhelming majority (90%) of white Europeans.
Perfect example is here in the US. Native Americans make up about 2% of the population, and once again are quite poor over all, while African Americans make up about 13% of the population, and have far greater economic power than Native Americans. While they too are less powerful, economically, than European Americans, they have enough Economic power to be a targeted market of consumers. McDonalds, Lugz, MTV, Foot Locker, hell...FUBU ("For Us By Us") and BET ("Black Entertainment Television")...who are they appealing to in their ads? It's completely economic. The advertising industry thinks with its wallet.
But the same could be said of whites who live in poor conditions. Yes, I understand that most minorities are of the lower echelons of the economic world, especially in America, but that doesn't mean that race and economics are equal determinants of where you'll end up in life.
Exactly, and that's also racist.
Not when it is conducted in this way. It only turns people off to the topic, and makes people resent it even more. I should not have to pay for the idiocy of others who look like me, just as black people should not be held accountable for the actions of people who look like them.
But that's wrong! I know I wouldn't feel that way now if someone thought I was a janitor. I would just tell them that I wasn't. Same as if someone thought I had an 'important' job.
I don't do that, and I think it's absolutely wrong.
Well I don't do that, so why I should I be thought of as a racist just because I'm white?
Does 'race' still matter orange?
It does in Australia. If you're an Aborigine you won't see people like you advertising things on television.
Perfect example is here in the US. Native Americans make up about 2% of the population, and once again are quite poor over all, while African Americans make up about 13% of the population, and have far greater economic power than Native Americans. While they too are less powerful, economically, than European Americans, they have enough Economic power to be a targeted market of consumers. McDonalds, Lugz, MTV, Foot Locker, hell...FUBU ("For Us By Us") and BET ("Black Entertainment Television")...who are they appealing to in their ads? It's completely economic. The advertising industry thinks with its wallet.
You won't see people like you reading the news. You might see an occasional sporting celebrity, or politician, but that's it. You probably won't have mains electricity, or running water, you won't have the same life expectancy, you will have had a range of childhood diseases eradicated or prevented in white or non-white children, you will live in sub-standard housing, you will be more likely to develop alcoholism, your children will be more likely to encounter problems with chroming or glue sniffing or petrol sniffing. You won't be treated with respect and you will have people like Pauline Hanson complaining about state hand outs and money being wasted on you.
I think some of the people on the course meant well- but telling people that 'people of colour' can't be racist is so 1980s. I'm sure that the parents of some of my Viet Namese or Chinese friends would die of apoplexy at the thought of their children coming home with a black partner.
But that's not the point- as long as there are unscrupulous people seeking to exploit supposed racial differences then 'diversity' training for all its faults, is a good thing.
By the way, if you looked 'indian' and were from South America you'd probably be hacked off if some idjit had mistaken you for a janitor, especially if you studied hard and sacrificed to get where you were. Your first thought wouldn't be the dignity of labour and the Rights of Man.
Now you might say you judge people as individuals, and I applaud you for that. I hope to treat people as individuals too, but other people don't. As a friend of mine said, when people get upset at her, it's usually a short time before the 'black' thing comes out of the bag:
'You black this, you black that....'
'You black this, you black that....'
If you want to stigmatize someone treating them as a 'colour' or a 'race' or even now as a combination of 'race' and religion is the easiest way to dehumanize them and stop thinking of them as an individual or a human being.
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