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  • #31
    Once regular army gets over itself and sends Spec Ops back in, things will quiet down again. Damned politics.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


      (b) It's charming to see in this thread so much emphasis on the hoped-for political consequences regarding Berlusconi, and so little about the dead and their families.
      This from the guy that wants to blow all those ******* ******** all the way to ******* ****!
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      • #33
        This is the biggest tragedy for the Italian Military since after WW2 (never before 14 Italian soldiers were killed on a foreign land).

        Personally I'm very sad about this, and the fact was given a huge cover by the media, to the point that the TV is now showing the debate in the parliament concerning this tragedy (because for us it is really like a national tragedy).

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

          (b) It's charming to see in this thread so much emphasis on the hoped-for political consequences regarding Berlusconi, and so little about the dead and their families.
          I dont find it surprising at all. The war isnt supported by many in europe so many people are having difficulties to feel sympathetic about this, many people probably think like "its their fault, who told them to go there anyway" Americaines are just more pro-war than we. It's your ****, go sink into it.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Giovanni Wine
            This is the biggest tragedy for the Italian Military since after WW2 (never before 14 Italian soldiers were killed on a foreign land).
            In a single day or ever? Because I'm pretty sure you've sent troops into a combat zone before, right?
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            • #36
              This is now by far the worst month for the coalition forces since the end of the war. Only time will tell if this is the turning point as the country turns to normality, a last jerk from a corrupt regime. Or the start of a new period of increasing violence and rebellion against the new order.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                In a single day or ever? Because I'm pretty sure you've sent troops into a combat zone before, right?
                In a single day. I don't really know what was the worst ever.

                We did sent troops to combat zone before (very recents were East Timor, Afghanistan and Kosovo, and in the latter there is still a huge Italian presence there). Although this is the first time we did it as "Italy" and not as part of the UN Forces.

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                The trick is the doing something else."
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                • #38
                  condolences to the families of the victims.

                  on topic: It seems that the US and allies, are somewhat passive.
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kropotkin
                    This is now by far the worst month for the coalition forces since the end of the war. Only time will tell if this is the turning point as the country turns to normality, a last jerk from a corrupt regime. Or the start of a new period of increasing violence and rebellion against the new order.
                    Sounds like your writing part two of a three part historical drama.
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                    • #40
                      Last update: 17 Italians victims - 15 military and 2 Civilians. and there are another 20 injured or wounded.

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                      The trick is the doing something else."
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                      • #41
                        A number of the Democrats think that if we let a UN commissioner take Bremer's position, that NATO would send troops to help out/replace American troops. The theory they advance is that the resistance by Saddam/outside terrorists is solely related to America running the occupation and that turning it over to the UN/NATO would end or lessen the resistance in some fashion.

                        1) Would European countries support turning Iraq into a NATO military operation if the UN were to take charge of the occupation (Bremer)?

                        2) Assume 1), would you think that France, Germany and other NATO members, besides those who already have sent troop, send more than token forces to Iraq?

                        3) Assume 1), do you think that Saddam/terrorists will stop trying to regain control if this becomes a UN/NATO occupation?
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                        • #42
                          It is shameful that people use this tragedy to discuss about putting down Berlusconi.. another reason why I'll NEVER vote a lefty party not even if I was starving
                          I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                            It is shameful that people use this tragedy to discuss about putting down Berlusconi.. another reason why I'll NEVER vote a lefty party not even if I was starving
                            I agree 100%
                            (especially when you say you'll never ever vote a lefty party )

                            Saluti
                            "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
                            The trick is the doing something else."
                            — Leonardo da Vinci
                            "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
                            "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                              It is shameful that people use this tragedy to discuss about putting down Berlusconi.. another reason why I'll NEVER vote a lefty party not even if I was starving
                              To the left, there no patriotism. There is only politics.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by techumseh


                                This from the guy that wants to blow all those ******* ******** all the way to ******* ****!
                                Just the ones that are shooting at us, trying to blow us up, etc. I don't have a problem with the vast majority of the Iraqi population.

                                Besides, you lefties are supposed to be the concerned, sensitive ones.
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