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  • #61
    I'd just as soon be shot as hit over the head with a rock.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dissident


      well I won't deny there will be millions of deaths if everyone had a gun.

      But once that bloodbath is overwith. Things should be very peaceful
      millions?

      Do you realize there are less than 300 million people in the US? I seriously doubt that millions would die.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


        Or grenade launchers.
        again, if they can put their hands on them, they already do that, today.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #64
          Concealed hanguns reduce some types of crime, notably murder, violence and rape. Theft and bruglary (in homes with nobody home) on the other hand rise a little.

          Concealed handguns makes it more risky for a criminal to try anything.


          If anything should want to study to topic more in detail, I would recommend "More Guns, Less Crime" by John R. Lott, jr.
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          • #65
            Azazel:

            We cannot stop all murderers, so do we stop punishing those we can catch?

            It's the same with gun control. Yes, we might still have guns, but you make it much more difficult for criminals to use them.

            And the bullet idea is an interesting one. Especially if you make people think before they shoot, because they don't want to run out of ammunition.
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            • #66
              You haven't adressed my line of thought at all, Ben. I am saying that the "arms race" theory doesn't work. criminals already try to get their hands on the heaviest equipment around, not just 'to gain advantage over the common man', esp. since law enforcement already have them all. Therefor, letting people have handguns, will not lead to criminals trying to seek assault rifles, since they already get them if and when they can.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #67
                we'd just all stockpile ammunition before the law goes into effect

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                • #68
                  we'd just all stockpile ammunition before the law goes into effect
                  Gotta run out sometime.

                  As for the escalation theory, yes some criminals already have assault rifles, but why would you need one if most people did not have a gun? I would think you would have more criminals aquiring assault rifles than before.
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                  • #69
                    As for the escalation theory, yes some criminals already have assault rifles, but why would you need one if most people did not have a gun? I would think you would have more criminals aquiring assault rifles than before.


                    Why? because police have guns. And assault rifles, as well.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #70
                      So what would happen if I walked into the Apolyton coffee shop with an uzi??
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                      • #71
                        Uzi is a farely decent guy, I know him.


                        Which reminds me... this guy, above is an Israeli singer, named Uzi Hitman. What can I say?
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • #72
                          That's deliberate, right?
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                          • #73
                            Well, we do have to educate our children to the grim realities of the conflict, and the bright future of conquest. (He writes lots of kids' songs.)

                            Seriously, no!
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Azazel
                              Uzi is a farely decent guy, I know him.


                              Which reminds me... this guy, above is an Israeli singer, named Uzi Hitman. What can I say?
                              Going for the Smart*ss Award, are we?


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                              • #75
                                Yep, the sky is the limit.
                                urgh.NSFW

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