Face it, the U.S. was a whole lot safer when everyone had guns

[Cruddy]

If you're that worried about crime, why not just kill everyone? Then there's no crime.

Judge Death - what a guy.

[Az]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


However, right now, there's no pressing need for it. Think of it as an arms race.

Just as I said, the analogy doesn't hold. Criminals already get the best weapons possible. The range of the best weapons possible won't change.

[Agathon]

This is a joke, right?

The US high crime rate and high rate of violence can be put down in part to a lack of gun control. There are far more guns in Canada, per capita; but that country does not have the problems with violence the US does.

You Americans make me laugh - you deliberately choose a societal model that leads to less overall security and then complain about the crime. Unfortunately your solution just seems to be to hope that the criminals start behaving.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


A few years before he died, Daniel Moynahan (moderate Senator from NY) confronted this very question, and came to pretty much those conclusions. Plus, he noted, even if we did ban guns right now, there are already enough floating around in our society to make the ban meaningless.

His solution: ban bullets. Seriously. Ban the sale of handgun bullets to everyone but licensed law officers, and have law officers get them through tightly-regulated government distribution.

I tend to agree with Sloww that the genie is already out of the bottle. But you have to admit, it's an interesting idea.

While it is inconvenient, a person can reload shell casings. It just takes some simple equipment. My grandpa always insisted that I pick up my shell casings after shooting no matter where I was.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MrFun


In Iowa, we clobber each other over the head with corn cobs.

Is that all you do with them?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sprayber



Is that all you do with them?

Why would you want to know?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MrFun


Why would you want to know?

No thanks, I've picked my side and plan to stay.

[Az]

how are you doing, Sprayber?

[Saint Marcus]

if you live in a place where you need guns to feel safe, you're living in the wrong place.

Homicide rates in the US are 3 to 9 times higher than in EU nations. Even with your precious guns. They don't seem to be helping you much, do they? Unless you plan on shooting up your school or former employer, that is.

[Jack_www]

Why not just buy a tank and have a body guards armed with high powered sub machine guns?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
if you live in a place where you need guns to feel safe, you're living in the wrong place.

Homicide rates in the US are 3 to 9 times higher than in EU nations. Even with your precious guns. They don't seem to be helping you much, do they? Unless you plan on shooting up your school or former employer, that is.

this is because most people don't have guns.

you haven't been listening.

All you Euros think americans go around the town toting guns. Very, very few people own guns. And even a much smaller number carry guns outside their homes.

You people complain about hollywood movies not depicting history accurately, yet you base your knowledge of the U.S. from hollywood movies. You can walk around my city for hours and not see a gun. They don't even let many casino security guards carry them anymore because of the liability risk.

[Saint Marcus]

Very, very few people own guns.

1 in 5, no?

and you have more guns than people.

And even a much smaller number carry guns outside their homes.

cause it's illegal in most states, I believe.

[Dis]

actually no.

It is legal in most states to carry guns openly. Many states restrict concealed weapons though.

But I could go walking around my city with a loaded shotgun if I wanted to.

...that gives me an idea

[DanielXY]

Hm, how does this ruling makes sense?
"Yeah, you are allowed to carry your weapon in your hand, ready to shoot. But please dont put it in your pocket!"

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Azazel
Just as I said, the analogy doesn't hold. Criminals already get the best weapons possible. The range of the best weapons possible won't change.

How do you figure? A race would only be needed if existing hardware is inadequate.