Watch TV or Go to Jail

[realpolitic]

Originally posted by Ming
Uhhh... sava... they don't allow smoking ads on Channel One...

But back to your "study"... The study has more to do with the danger of smoking... not the ads. One of the findings of the study is that ads for cigs shouldn't be allowed... but because smoking is bad... NOT THE ADS.

"Methinks he protests too much" -Shakespeare

[Jaguar]

I don't object to them showing channel one, but I do object to sending them off to juvy for not watching TV. It just sounds stupid.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Ming
Channel One is an excellent educational tool. These days, many kids won't open a book, but will watch tv. Using it as an education tool is smart. A few commercials doesn't negate that.

I don't rightly know what Channel 1 is; is it something you watch at school every day? Or do they just do programmes on the stuff you should be talking about in class?

In any case, tv programmes can be quite useful, as they can show experiments (sciences) that require sophisticated/expensive tools, or they can show information on nature in general you would not see otherwise. But in the end, such programmes are just something extra, you won't pass your exams if you have only watched these programmes, teh kids'll need their fat ugly book if they like it or not!



advertising is not really appropriate in educational tv, but I wouldn't make a fuss about it.. it's not like you're watching the uberdumb advertising on normal stations anyway (I don't!)
I just don't see how ads fit in with these kind of scientific programmes (I can't imagine having seen ads myself at school!)

[Ben Kenobi]

If one of the rules is, you have to take tests... you take the tests... if one is, you have to watch Channel One... watch Channel One.

Ming:

Do the students agree to do extra work to make up for the time spent watching channel one? If this is so, I see no reason why not to let them walk out on the class.

Secondly, why should the school have to advertise in order to provide proper education? That to me tells me that there is something seriously flawed with the educational system.

If the advertisers really want to help schools, they should DONATE airtime to the schools, rather than advertising.

Can the advertisements.

[Verto]

Something IS wrong with the educational system. It is no longer about educating. It is about providing "senior year experiences"; it is about school spirit(ie. pep rallies on a nearly weekly basis, at least in the school district here). We put more money into the public education system, and results continue to go downhill.

They don't need more funding - they need to get back to educating. One of the high schools here has 14 coaches for football alone, with the top coach making 70,000 a year. This doesn't count the rival high school, or the numerous basketball, baseball, tennis, track, volleyball and softball coaches. Does this school district need money? Apparently, as they are "being forced" to cut school bus routes, make do with less, etc.

A lack of funding, or a lack of proper priorities?

Back to the topic: Students perceived something as a problem, and protested it. American history is replete with this kind of stuff (ie Boston Tea Party, Revolution, Women's Rights, Civil Rights, etc etc.)

[Nubclear]

Never heard of Channel 1, but from what Google has taught me it's a news organization for children.
No, this is not like saying "It's against my religion to take tests" or saying "It's against my religion to learn math". That is a large overstatement. It's saying the child does not want to watch television. Everything one can learn on TV can be learned in a book as well. To send a youth to a Juvenile Detention Facility is what Stalinists would do for refusing to watch a propaganda video.
This school is defiant in the face of the American tradition of freedom of religion, and the administrators of the school should be held to a public flogging.

Thank you.

[Sava]

To send a youth to a Juvenile Detention Facility is what Stalinists would do for refusing to watch a propaganda video.

We're the People's Republic of America my friend... only the state supports corporations...

[chequita guevara]

The could have placed their heads down on the table/desk and refused to watch while remaining in class. That would have made a better protest in my mind.

[Ben Kenobi]

Walkouts are way more effective, since they attract much more attention.

It depends on your goal, to just not have to watch the channel, or to stop the television advertisements altogether.

[Verto]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The could have placed their heads down on the table/desk and refused to watch while remaining in class. That would have made a better protest in my mind.

Then the teacher would have simply disciplined them for "sleeping".

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Verto
Then the teacher would have simply disciplined them for "sleeping".

Better than going to jail. Start small, then escalate. Don't start at the top or you have no where to go.

[korn469]

We had channel one in high school, and their "education" were like a bad version of headline news on cnn hosted by lisa ling...

i will never forget that horrible pepsi one commericial they would play OVER AND OVER AGAIN, it had right now, by van halen or somebody in it, i wanted to kill the pepsi ad executives who came up with it, but the commercial did stick

anyways...

we live in a sick society when we jail kids for refusing to watch tv
and people wonder why americans are fat

[Snotty]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Better than going to jail. Start small, then escalate. Don't start at the top or you have no where to go.

Like any of us would have given a damn about some kids putting their heads down in class, and get a lunchtime detention for it.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Sava
We're the People's Republic of America my friend... only the state supports corporations...

All Americans support the right-thinking news organization Channel One!!!

In other glorious news, the People's Educational Enforcer has rescued revolutionary students from the counter-revolutionary thinking of the communist pigdogs known as "DJ" and "Carlotta Maurer".
"We simply want what's best for future revolutionaries. We do not wish to infect them with the communist plague" said an anonymous People's Education Enforcement Dept. official yesterday.

[Drake Tungsten]

The kids walked out because they had objections to television. It's the equivalent of walking out of a biology on dissection day because you have moral problems with cutting up a frog. It's something that gets sorted out in the school, not juvie.

Those ***** animal rights ****s should be put in the clink as well.