EU full of Picky Eaters

[Japher]

Well, that's just as dumb, and everyone knows that Disney and those who run it are really the spawn of Satan(TM)...

[Asmodean]

Originally posted by Japher
Satan(TM)...

Asmodean

[CerberusIV]

This all started with the French trying to protect the use of the description "Champagne" and then the Greeks with "Feta". Blame the French and the Greeks!

*throws bomb, runs and hides*

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asmodean
In the case of Champagne: No other wine in Europe may call itself Champagne. Why should overseas ones be allowed to.

Why should you be able to tell us we can't?

[Asmodean]

Originally posted by skywalker


Why should you be able to tell us we can't?

Okay. Tomorrow I'm going to start a burger restaurant. I think I'll call one of my burgers "Big Mac". Let's see if some Americans are going to tell me that I can't do that.

Asmodean

[Kuciwalker]

Let's see if it violates international copyright laws. If so, you can't do it.

I don't see how using the traditional name for a product violates copyright laws, though.

[Japher]

Asmoden:

1) That would be a private matter between you and McDonalds. Certainly the American government wouldn't try and sue you or force you to change the name.

2) It would be more like you naming it "Hamburger" instead of "Big Mac" and then having McDonalds sue you becuase you called it what it is...

[Chemical Ollie]

The issues I wanted to discuss, like Danish feta and American Budweiser (both are fake) have already been discussed, and I have nothing to add. So I give you some other invaluable information:

Some local politicians wanted to name my region "The Absolut Valley" (all Absolut Vodka is made 22 km = 15 miles from where I sit). They lost the vote in the regional parliament.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Japher
2) It would be more like you naming it "Hamburger" instead of "Big Mac" and then having McDonalds sue you becuase you called it what it is...

Or the city of Hamburg sues McDonalds for continuously trashing its name with something which should be called Fatburger.

[Chemical Ollie]

There's no ham in a hamburger, and it does not come from Hamburg...

[Asmodean]

I know, Japher, I know. It's just that.....I don't know. What so bad about this? I mean....it would work the other way around too.

Sometimes I think that because you are so young a nation, you Americans have so little history (this is not meant as bashing, this is really my theory) that you feel the need to take some of ours. So it's easy to take a household name from Europe, make an American product, and market it under the European name.

You have no real sense of the dedication and emotion that goes into making a product that has been made for centuries at the exact same spot where you are making it, by people exactly like you (in some cases even your own family). So please understand European manufacturers if they feel offended that people 4000 miles away claim to be making the same product.

For decades there has been only 1 kind of Champagne: The one from Champagne. Why should there be more. For centuries there has been only 1 kind Parma Ham. The one from Parma. Why confuse it?

Asmodean

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Asmodean


Okay. Tomorrow I'm going to start a burger restaurant. I think I'll call one of my burgers "Big Mac". Let's see if some Americans are going to tell me that I can't do that.

Asmodean

Exactly. Let the Canadians call it Parma-style ham.

[Chemical Ollie]

Can anyone recall if the Russian Smirnoff family actually got any money from their relatives in America? I know there was a lawsuit, but I can't remember the outcome.

[Japher]

Asmoden: I agree completely with you address...

The point I started making, and then got side tracked, is that America is getting picked on and blamed for everyone's problems... IMO The EU wants us to stop using these names not because it is "wrong" but because it hurts their pocket book... What the EU should do is market their products better (which is Americas Forte, and the real complaint), educate the public that they are so afraid are being "tricked" by the manufacturers, and actually fix the problem themselves; not ask the US to do it for them... make sense?

Also,

You have no real sense of the dedication and emotion that goes into making a product that has been made for centuries at the exact same spot where you are making it, by people exactly like you (in some cases even your own family). So please understand European manufacturers if they feel offended that people 4000 miles away claim to be making the same product.

They don't claim that is that product. Besides, many of the people who started making "similar" products here were from there and brought with them the knowledge and desire to have a little bit of home with them.

And please don't tell us Americans what we do and don't have a "real sense" of or "understand" anymore, it's a stupid argument that holds no weight and I am tired of hearing Old Europe keep telling us this... We are like an ignorant teenager, but did you ever listen? Doubt it, and the more that you continue to say stuff like that the more it hurts...

[Dinner]

Under the proposal -- which is resisted by the United States, Canada and others -- products labeled as Champagne, Parma ham, Roquefort cheese or any of the other names on the list will have to come from their traditional European regions.

They can eat **** and die. It has been shown that many of these goods have been locally produced and sold under those names for 200 years. Sorry EU but in order to enforce copy rights you need continous enforcement and you are now several centuries to late.