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    EU's Beef

    BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Union issued a list Thursday of 41 wines, cheeses and other products it wants protected by a global trade pact, accusing other countries of abusing the names of its delicacies.

    Under the proposal -- which is resisted by the United States, Canada and others -- products labeled as Champagne, Parma ham, Roquefort cheese or any of the other names on the list will have to come from their traditional European regions.

    ``Abuses in other countries undermine the reputation of EU products and create confusion for consumers,'' the EU's trade commissioner, Pascal Lamy, said. ``We want this to cease for the most usurped products.''

    In world trade talks in Cancun, Mexico, next month, the EU wants to create a global register of such geographically defined products that would ban producers from outside the traditional region for using such names.

    Its list includes Beaujolais, Chianti, Madeira and other wines; feta, Gorgonzola, Roquefort and other cheeses; and Parma ham and mortadella sausages. In some countries, these names are claimed to be generic or have been registered as trademarks by local producers.

    ``This is a short list of 41 products whose names are being abused and parroted'' by non-EU producers, said EU spokesman Gregor Kreuzhuber.

    He added that the EU planned to seek protection at a later stage for 600 more ``regional quality products.'' On top of that, it awaits submissions of products peculiar to Cyprus, Malta and eight East European nations that will join the EU in May.

    The EU is not alone. India is keen to protect Darjeeling tea, Sri Lanka its Ceylon tea, Guatemala its Antigua coffee and Switzerland its Etivaz cheese.

    The EU has run into opposition from the United States and some Latin American nations that argue that in many cases, products such as sherry or Parmesan cheese were introduced by European immigrants and have been made in their new countries for generations.

    ``This is not about protectionism. It is about fairness,'' EU Agriculture Commissioner Franz Fischler said in a statement. ``It is simply not acceptable that the EU cannot sell its genuine Italian Parma ham in Canada because the trademark `Parma ham' is reserved for a ham produced in Canada.''

    He said geographical indicators are a quality guarantee and avoid confusion among consumers.

    In recent bilateral trade agreements, the EU has stood firm in protecting its labels, forcing South Africa to phase out its use of the port and sherry labels, and demanding Chilean wine makers stop using the Champagne or Burgundy brands.

    Under a liquor trade agreement in the early 1990s, the United States agreed not to use labels such as Scotch whiskey or Cognac, while the EU said bourbon or Tennessee whiskey should remain exclusive American products.

    However, the issue of geographic labeling is touchy, even within the EU.

    Denmark has been fighting a seven-year legal battle over Greece's claims to exclusive rights over the name ``feta'' for its salty white cheese.

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    I think the EU is taking things too far, or at least not picking their battles well... What do you think?
    Monkey!!!

  • #2
    What battles should we pick then?
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    • #3
      Stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
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      • #4
        I would rather see the EU suggest increasing tarrifs or set greater limits on foreign chains being opened domestically if all the want to do is protect their "nationalism" than to argue over petty things such as words.

        "No it is not a Beligum Waffle if it is made at IHOP in Lodi!"

        What does the EU think? That everyone on this planet is a bunch of idiots!? [sarcasm]Wow, I found some French Brie that was made in Texas!!![/sarcasm]

        All it is another attempt of the EU to boost their economy while hurting ours... Do you know how much it costs to instigate the changes they are asking US/us to do?

        I can understand the Gen Food, but come on...
        Monkey!!!

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        • #5
          ``Abuses in other countries undermine the reputation of EU products and create confusion for consumers,'' the EU's trade commissioner, Pascal Lamy, said. ``We want this to cease for the most usurped products.''
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            Things like this make me lose faith in humanity
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            • #7
              ``This is not about protectionism. It is about fairness,'' EU Agriculture Commissioner Franz Fischler said in a statement. ``It is simply not acceptable that the EU cannot sell its genuine Italian Parma ham in Canada because the trademark `Parma ham' is reserved for a ham produced in Canada.''
              Japher: You really see nothing wrong with this. Parma ham can off course only come from Parma. It is ridiculous that Parma Ham should be a registered trademark in Canada. The same goes with other products. This is not about protectionism. This is about quality. And we will win this one.

              Asmodean
              Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark

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              • #8
                You don't understand. These are very important issues
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                • #9
                  I don't think it will make any difference with consumers. Danish havarti from Denmark still commands a higher price. It's not like people can't read to see where it's from. And supermarkets put them in a special section anyway.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Asmodean
                    This is not about protectionism. This is about quality. And we will win this one.
                    Of course it is. Why else would Greece be fighting Denmark for control over what slty cheese can be called?
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                    • #11
                      I don't even know what Parma Ham is, and I hardly ever see Champagne used on American "Sparkling Wines"... I think if the only problem were that someone trademarked a type of food product and that they have a right to call their product that then fine, but to say that no one else can call it what they call it is silly... Canadians never whine about Americans making Candian Bacon, Germans never complain that we call some sausage German Sausage... etc... Basically, I see it as they want to trademark common words and that is dumb and won't fly. Also, it really makes people look stupid...

                      I agree with DanS: Look at Caviar...


                      EU Secretary: "Uh, thousands of people are dying in Europe because our hospitals suck and no one knows how to avoid the heat. What should we do?"

                      EU Boss: "Let's blame the U.S.!"

                      EU Secretary: "How are we going to do that?"

                      EU Boss: "Well they didn't sign the Kyoto thingymajig so we all gave up on that. We'll say that is because they wouldn't back it that caused the heat wave that killed everyone."

                      EU Secretary: "That's an excellent idea, sir. What about the poor hospitals then?"

                      EU Boss: "We'll say it has something to do with the high cost of American drugs."

                      EU Secretary: "Excellent. And our total lack of public service education that caused those people to die?"

                      EU Boss: "Uh, they have been eating to many foods from the U.S. that isn't really from where it says it is from in the bold print!"

                      EU Secretary: "Excelent!"

                      EU Boss: "Ass you can see the U.S. is responsible for everything. From our low production values to the Weather..."
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Japher
                        Basically, I see it as they want to trademark common words and that is dumb and won't fly.
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                        • #13
                          The worst case of label fraud is of course calling a brand of American beer Budweiser. The only true Budweiser comes of course from Ceske Budeovice (Budweis) in the Czech Republic and is actually beer and not bottled piss like the American fake.

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                          • #14
                            In the case of Champagne: No other wine in Europe may call itself Champagne. Why should overseas ones be allowed to.

                            In the case of Parma Ham. No other ham in Europe may call itself Parma Ham. Why etc.

                            These products are for the most part products of a very high quality. A quality that is known worldwide. It is confusing for the average consumer, that these names "brandnames" as they are, can be used indiscriminately be whatever producer registeres the trademark first, when the names have been used for decades, even centuries in Europe.

                            I'm sorry, but it really makes Americans look stupid, that they can not see why Europe cares about this.

                            By the way: Disney has just won a lawsuit against the descendants of a Danish children's book author. App. 40 years ago, this guy, Ole Lund Kirkegaard, wrote a novel called "Gummi Tarzan". In translation, this means "Rubber Tarzan". Since then this book has become part of Danish cultural heritage. It's a book that all danes know, and everybody have read it as a child. Now Disney owns the name Tarzan, and have just won a lawsuit against the family of Mr. Kirkegaard. Basically the name of the book has to change, or else...

                            So you see...you guys can do it to. In my book this is anexample of just the opposite. Now who's looking stupid?

                            Asmodean
                            Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark

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                            • #15
                              Why don't the Danish courts tell Disney where to go and how to get there?

                              Really, things like this are silly.
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