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[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And actually... I'd take Dilfer over both of them. Look at what he did in Seattle before he got hurt last year.

Is Dilfer still in Seatle?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Bull****... Dilfer is the most underrated passer in the game. He has a great arm, and a decent touch. Just because he played in a ****hole of Tampa for most of his career doesn't mean he is bad.

He is a better QB than either Fiedler or Griese. For one, say what you will, but he took a team that was floundering with Tony Banks (hovering at .500) and took them to a SuperBowl.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Is Dilfer still in Seatle?

Yes... not sure if he's still the starter. Holmgren changes his mind every day, and Hasselback took some good steps late last year.

[Kidlicious]

I saw Dilfer play plenty at Fresno State. It was tremendous here. He does have great potential, and Seattle should be better this year.

[Drake Tungsten]

Dilfer is the most underrated passer in the game.

Dilfer's arm isn't that great. Even if it was, arm strength doesn't keep you from being the next Jeff George.

[Imran Siddiqui]

He's also fairly accurate. He's a good QB. All he needs is a team with an offense. So far Seattle is his best shot.

I can just picture you laughing in 1987 if I told you Tampa's Steve Young was a good passer as well .

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I think (total guess, btw) Tampa v. St. Louis (or Philadelphia)

It's going to interesting to see how St. Louis tries to bounce back.

Anyone have Warner high on their Fantasy Football wishlist?

[Drake Tungsten]

I can just picture you laughing in 1987 if I told you Tampa's Steve Young was a good passer as well

If Steve Young had spent as many years failing in Tamba Bay as Dilfer with a defense as good as the one Dilfer had, I would laugh at you. Fortunately for me, the two situations aren't similar in the least.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Zopperoni

It's going to interesting to see how St. Louis tries to bounce back.

Anyone have Warner high on their Fantasy Football wishlist?

Warner is a maybe, but we've got Marc Bulger waiting in the wings.

[monolith94]

I'm wicked dumb

[Imran Siddiqui]

If Steve Young had spent as many years failing in Tamba Bay as Dilfer with a defense as good as the one Dilfer had, I would laugh at you. Fortunately for me, the two situations aren't similar in the least.

What does the defense have to do with offensive stats?

They are very similar. Both played on HORRIBLE Tampa offenses. Both were considered bad QBs because of the teams they played on. Dilfer had just as horrible an offensive line and wide recievers. In his last three years at Tampa, he had decent years even with those setbacks.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The NFC is going to come down to New England versus Atlanta.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by monolith94
The NFC is going to come down to New England versus Atlanta.

Eh...Patriots are in the AFC o_O

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by monolith94
The NFC is going to come down to New England versus Atlanta.

To quote Imran:



Think about it.......

ACK!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Drake:

Dilfer's last three Tampa teams were 11-5 in 1999 (with Shawn King starting 6 games that year), 8-8 in 1998, and 10-6 in 1997. That's not bad at all. That doesn't seem like 'failing' with a good defense.