Question for communists . . . .

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by elijah
Because the soviet union, china, cuba, La Revolucion etc etc, hasnt worked, doesnt work, is against human nature, and is politically, economically and socially flawed, is no reason to tar the entire movement with the brush of not "working"!

/me tries not to laugh

[Whaleboy]

Communism is anti-capitalism and is evil. It won't work ever

What did I just say?

Capitalism, for it to work, involves incorporating elements of communism. Believe it or not, lucipher is not karl marx and it is somewhat irrational to suggest otherwise like "communism is evil". Why is it evil? Why will being communist send you to hell? Why is communism "bad".

The Friedman quote is an example of communism. The example that doesnt work, and I freely admit that, is the centralised authoritarian system. Authoritarianism, and totalitarianism and militaristic societies simply dont work. That doesnt just go for Stalinist societies.

If you are talking about Stalinism, it doesnt work. Stalinism is communism, for sure. Communism is not Stalinism.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Fez
Communism is anti-capitalism and is evil. It won't work ever.

Communism is not inherently evil -- how do you like those folks who call homosexual behavior evil?

See how such a fallicious, one-line, so-called argument does NOT work?

[Whaleboy]

DinoDoc tries not to laugh

DD, you're a sig machine dude!

Communism stretches far beyond my closed series of examples. See the article in my sig? How much would yuo think that corresponds to Stalinism or any of those examples? Most of it all complies with loose interpretations of communism including much of Marx and Engels, yet it would allow for a highly capitalist society, and indeed create the necessary conditions for it!

[Giancarlo]

You all have your opinions, I have mine.

[Whaleboy]

It won't work ever

Go to a Kibbutz in Israel and then post that

[Whaleboy]

You all have your opinions, I have mine.

Of course, that is not in dispute. The difference is that we have backed ours up.

[Giancarlo]

Bull****, elijah.

[Whaleboy]

That was meant to be interpreted as a request to clarify and reason your position, a request that still stands, it was not meant to be provocation for abusive language -this is a family site after all.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by elijah
DD, you're a sig machine dude!

I can not help it. You inspire me.

[Whaleboy]

We should have our own comedy thread! It'd be like Baddiel and Skinner Unplanned but without the chalkboard!

[Agathon]

Fez, did I hear you say you weren't a fascist?

You threaten to throw leftists from helicopters and you have a link to the Franco appreciation society in your sig.

Definitely not a fascist.

Mother of God.....

[Whaleboy]

From the little spanish I understand, that site is really really disturbing *screams and runs crying "the forces of conservatism are preparing to strike"*

[Agathon]

Originally posted by elijah
From the little spanish I understand, that site is really really disturbing *screams and runs crying "the forces of conservatism are preparing to strike"*

Bit of a laugh isn't it. I mean the guy swears that he's not a fascist but might as well attach a huge flag to his head saying "Fascist here".

I mean he even came out as a fascist on the political compass (way to the right and way more authoritarian than almost everyone on the forum).

[Whaleboy]

Well, I been banned for a week once, I'm not going to comment on that *polite cough*.

I do think that religious adherence to one particular point of view, particularly one that many or most would view as dangerous, is quite odd given no proof, no reasoning and little or no evidence.

I can hardly talk of course, guarenteeing at least 10% more libertarianism than anyone else, but then, I back it up!