I'm Going Conservative

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'm not a conservative... I'm a moderate libertarian .

[Ecthy]

Imran, please. We won't lie about ourselves here.

Be honest.

[Ecthy]

Does anybody else want to answer for Imran?

[Spiffor]

Static :

In reaction to your first post, it seems you are reacting to extreme left (or rather extreme liberalism) because you hanged out with close-minded liberal people. Close-mindeness isn't exclusively a feat of the 'other side', unlike what lefties and righties often enjoy to think. Actually, you'll find it equally spread in all the political spectrum, except at the extremes where people are much more close-minded than anywhere else.

You should ignore those people who cannot understand that you don't like Noam Chomski (isn't he the guy who thinks Jews are behind Sept 11 anyway ? ) or that you like Nixon.
But you shouldn't ignore the ideology they pretend to belong to. Rather, you should do the opposite of them, and looking for the good things the 'liberals' are doing, even if your liberal friends defend it poorly.

I don't know about your examples as they are very American, but I'd say that

- the vegetable-car guy may have a good idea to reduce atmospheric pollution, i.e the most immediate challenge for the future of our environment. Let's just think if his way is efficient or not, rather than ridiculing or laudating him

- ignore the likes of Franken (no idea of who he is actually), and watching O'Reilly will be enough to see he is full of **** anyway.

- Do you have to be a conservative to consider Bill Clinton as a lying scumbag ? If then, I am a big conservative

- I think it is a proof of you being reflexive to say that Moore lies in his works. It is the same as saying Limbaugh lies in his show. Both are using old techniques of propaganda for their side. If only the conservatives can criticize Moore, then the conservatives must be fecked up big time, because by this logic, only liberals can criticize Limbaugh

- I have no idea on how the Liberals have ruined America's education system, but it sure needs change. I'd advise to look at suggested changes no matter where they come from, with a critical view. Not like saying "it is liberal, it must suck" or "it is conservative, it must rock" (too many partisans are doing it)

- Did anybody here (and we have a few of the extreme left here as well) defend the veiled woman and her driver licence's photo ? Liberalism or leftism isn't about tolerating everything.

- I thought the "Government is gonna get you" was a conservative propaganda, because I thought most Republican voters wanted to have the big government out of their backs. I don't think it is liberal to criticize the current administration's doings when it comes to freedom, especially in the light of the Patriot Act. Most conservatives here will tell it is a horrible piece of paper, along with the liberals.

As a conclusion, don't BE liberal, or don't BE conservative. I'd advise you to have the values you want, and to judge things individually according to these values. The liberals are sometimes better than the conservatives, and vice-versa. Please don't become close-minded like the people who disgusted you of liberalism.

[Ben Kenobi]

Dark Side? We're the side of peace and light!

That works in so many ways for me to post this.

Do I count as a conservative on the forum?

[Dis]

conservatives are evil and uncaring.

I'm doing everything possible to not become a conservative, although I'm still accused of being one.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by notyoueither


And what we are proposing to do in Canada will only make that worse. It will not be illegal to possess it, but it will be illegal to sell it. That means there could very well be growth in the number of people who want to use it, but they will all be driven to criminals who may well introduce them to 'better' stuff.

Liberalism. Gotta love it.

Appeasing the US. Gotta love it.

Vote NDP! Vote for Real Legalization!

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Who doesn't believe that?

I don't... open the borders up!

I am fine with that as long as we Canucks get to deport all the Canadian Alliance dolts to the country they love so much and out of the country they hate so much.

[Ned]

Static Universe, the definition of a conservation in the United States is a person who begins to junk his ideology in favor of common sense.

Welcome to reality!

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ned
Static Universe, the definition of a conservation in the United States is a person who begins to junk his ideology in favor of common sense.

Welcome to reality!

Translation : a person who junks its political will of approaching common problems in favour of his greed and prejudices

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by St Leo
Appeasing the US. Gotta love it.

Vote NDP! Vote for Real Legalization!

Just what does not wanting to see more heroin addicts, more pushers, and more gang violence in Canada have to do with appeasing Americans?

Yeah, vote NDP. Then we can have our economies flushed down the toilet from coast to coast! Maybe we'll all be able to make a living out of home grown 'businesses' exporting bud to the US, cause that and the public sector is about all that'll still be working if we give those wingnuts a chance at power in the federal government.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by St Leo


I am fine with that as long as we Canucks get to deport all the Canadian Alliance dolts to the country they love so much and out of the country they hate so much.

Are you a left wing wiglaf?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Ned
Static Universe, the definition of a conservation in the United States is a person who begins to junk his ideology in favor of common sense.

Welcome to reality!

Common sense.... Reality......

Ned, would you care to remind us about the "Everyone in the world is lying! All the Iraqis are in it too!!! It's a conspiracy.....But this ONE journalist is telling us the truth in Iraq, and that is: There are no bad things happening The Americans are glorious Everyone else is LYING "

[The Templar]

You know, the reason why marijuana is a so-called "gateway drug" is that the majority of people who do hard drugs like cocaine and heroine used pot first. Of course most hard drug users used cigarettes and alcohol first.

Isn't it always conservatives who are standing up for the right to smoke tobacco? Isn't it always conservatives who take money from Coors?

What's that sound in your head, Static Universe? I think its cognitive dissonace.

[Ben Kenobi]

I am fine with that as long as we Canucks get to deport all the Canadian Alliance dolts to the country they love so much and out of the country they hate so much.

Since when does the CA hate Canada? They are hard-core federalists.

The West just wants adequate representation, within Canada.