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  • boris, obviously bods doesnt think asians are actually people.
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    'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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    • I'm talking about Western morals and ethics, which is where we live after all.
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      • If morality is not mainly based on the Bible, then what other source is it thus so?
        Human instinct, cultures and the notion of sociological altruism that we are (mostly) born with. Its a relativist thing (its my word of the week in case you havent noticed), where morality is down to the individual as opposed to some fallacious notion of "what is right".
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        • Are the ethics and morals of Asians all that radically different from our own?

          Look at the most commonly cited moral tenets of Western Jude-Christendom, the 10 Commandments. How many of these moral rules also apply to non-Western cultures?
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          • I think the preceding 6000-8000 years we spent in increasingly civilised societies, living in proximity with many others may have been, at the very least, an influencing factor.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • How many of these moral rules also apply to non-Western cultures?
              Boris:

              Why don't you answer the question?
              All of the moral rules of the bible apply to everyone even Asians. For example, look at how many Christians live in Korea!
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              • Look how many Hindus live in New Jersey. Is that now a Hindi society?

                The point was that non-Western cultures that did not have the Bible also developed similar ethical and moral codes. Not murdering, not stealing, not cheating, etc. are all fairly universal beliefs in the large cultures.

                So, without a Bible, where did these moral tenets spring from? The answer is the same place Biblical morality came from: society.
                Last edited by Boris Godunov; June 18, 2003, 18:24.
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                • Originally posted by Starchild


                  Yes but that totally disrupts my plans to be married in the english garden of an aristocratic manor, with both of us in modern tuxes, my family seated on the right, his on the left, have a witness from the register's office observe, exchange rings with the words "With this ring" on the outside and "I thy wed" on the inside (white gold rings of course!), have the floral display be white roses, serve Vietnamese spring rolls to start followed by a choice between roast pork served on a bed of greens with roast potatos or salmon in a lemon and pepper sauce with stirfried bok choy and finish with a dessert of fresh summer fruits (this wedding shall be in July I say JULY!), and have Charlotte Church sing for us.
                  Damn, you really put the gay in gay marriage.
                  He's got the Midas touch.
                  But he touched it too much!
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                  • Is this thread eternal?
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • Yes
                      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                      "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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                      • So, without a Bible, where did these moral tenets spring from? The answer is the same place Biblical morality came from: society.
                        Boris:

                        CS Lewis has a different answer to this observation, that people have a law written on the heart from their conscience that transcends barriers of society. He calls this moral agreement the Tao and is generally cited in favour of a universal and not societal morality the fact that there is agreement between disparate societies.

                        Society can't be the answer if these people all come from different cultures and come up with the same answers.
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                        • Is this anything like Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? I've always meant to read that one.
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                          • Originally posted by obiwan18


                            Boris:

                            All of the moral rules of the bible apply to everyone even Asians. For example, look at how many Christians live in Korea!
                            No they do not. There are some here who live with different terms so don't try to push the bible on others.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • Why -- why for God's sake did someone revive this thread?

                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • Blame loinburger.. it wasn't me!
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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