Matrix Reloaded

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Azazel
He better be, since he's majoring in it, IIRC.

majoring in artificial intellegence! geeze... thats advanced

[Q Classic]

those two were the only ones specifically referenced.

that annoying heroworshipping kid is the kid from kids story; the osiris is the one that they referred to in the photos they took of the dig.

[sprucemoose3311]

matricies

1. it is obvious that there is a lot of religious symbolism in the movie. Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, etc.

So I look at the relationship between humans and machine like Jesus/Devil. Jesus (humans) is the creative one and the Devil is the one who copies Jesus and makes it appear to be better.
if that is true (by luck or genius writing) then we could say the relationship between Neo/Agent Smith is a microcosm of the humans and machine struggle.

Also, i noticed that there was a ( I dont know the exact name) Siva phalus worship shrine in the scene with the cake (look on the French guy's table). I thought that was great.

2. I think the rave was supposed to be 'Dance of the virgin'. They make the person dance till they die. So basically it forshawdowed the fall of Zion. Also, I hope they start revolutions with the battle of Zion.

3. Wow the video game is fun (gamecube version). i got a cheat to unlock everything, dvd, and music cd with my purchase

[Frozzy]

Saw it 2 days ago. Great. Just as good, if not better than the 1st.

[Lord Merciless]

The current binary semiconductor based computers were originally designed as tools for human. They excel in areas in which humans have great difficulties: mathematical computations and loss-less memory. On the otherhand, we have great difficulties in teaching computers some basic human abilities such as language and 'common sense'.

The binary logic system may never get AI past human intelligence. However, if we start to integrate them with biological systems, then all bets are off.

[BigFree]

SPOILERS

Originally posted by altF18
ah yes, Neo didn't even move like he did before he was the One in his fight with Morpheus in the first movie, or go as fast as when he was deflecting Agent Smith's blows after his resurrection.
Instead it was slow fluid fighting... so much for the One.

and yes, the entire soundtrack throughout the movie was lame. nothing like the suspenseful and intriguing first.

I only remember Neo fighting Smith(s); who could have evolved himself during the two movies. Which would explain why the fighting between them was dissimular form then to now.

If Neo had fought "agents" in this one, they would have been treated like they were at the end of the first movie. Neo kicking their tails with them having no chance whatsoever.

I'm not whooly sold on the idea that Trip has talked about; the "Matrix within a Matrix." I grant that it's possible, but also other things are possible. Like what if the "programs" are lying to him so that he sees his deeds/future as futile and decides against saving Zion since it doesn't really matter. Or the "Six times" that Neo has gone through to meet the Architect; the Architect is mistaken and is itself caught in a loop of "simulations." Or that the Oracle planted a virus into the Architect through Neo causing the Architect to believe certain things and to report fallacies to Neo.

There's list's of what if's from here to eternity......

I'm happy overall with the movie, even though I have my own reservations about the plausability of the actions I saw in terms of the plot. Like Neo's sudden ability to "link" with the Sentinals at the end.

[MRT144]

if its a matrix within a matrix, its worse than who shot J.R on Dallas.

[Hot Mustard]

Consider how many times Star Trek pulled the "holodeck within a holodeck" trick...

[MRT144]

star trek is no good example of a paragon of entertainment. if anything it just shows the power of the nerd audience to let a 3rd rate network let the show make itself look stupid.

[Lancer]

SPOILER

I don't think Zion was really destroyed, though it deserved it. I think the guy that told the destroyed Zion story was a Smith, as was everyone else in that ship. Waddaya think?

I didn't see the trailer however, the headbanging music drove me off.

[Lancer]

Can agents look like anyone? Can't recall...

[MRT144]

Yes Lancer, yes they can.

[Lancer]

So everyone on that ship could be a Smith, yes? The ship had Neo hooked up to the secret agent...

[MRT144]

i havent seen reloded

[Sava]

If you don't want spoilers, don't read my post.

Here's my review after seeing the movie twice.

Great.

The parts I was critical of: The Zion scenes... Utterly stupid and impractical... the only worthwhile scene was the talk between Neo and the Counselor where he explained control and the relationship between humans and machines. The "celebration" part was stupid and useless. Just an excuse to show bits and pieces of semi-R rated soft-core action. And despite my love for female nudity, searching for nipples wasn't quite as fun as you'd think it would normally be.

After the Zion scenes, the movie gets good. The highway scene being the absolute best. I think that scene is now my most favorite action sequence, dethroning the Luke Vs Vader fight in Empire Strikes Back. The special effects in this movie were as big a jump from normal SE's as the first Matrix's scenes were.

The reason I think most reviewers are complaining about the story: The don't get it.

I was able to follow the philosophical talk during the French guy part and the architect part. IMO, most reviewers are giving negative reviews on the story because it's complex, and quite frankly, goes over their heads.

To sum up this movie and whether or not you'll like it: If you love eye-candy action... you will love it; but feel bored during the talking scenes. If you are a fan of philosophy and fantasy/sci-fi plots, you will love this movie through and through. If, however, you enjoy going to the movies and not having to think, you might not enjoy it as much as I have.

After the first Matrix, I walked out of the theatre thinking and philosophizing... this movie succeeding in that regard. I thought I understood the Matrix universe, but there were many new aspects of the plot that were revealed that left me with the same kind of questions after the first one.